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  • Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social
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    3 months ago

    US leads world culture, if the past is any indication. If we get royally fucked here, expect the same to come everywhere else.

    I mean, “my people are literally dying.”

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    Seeing the rainbow community support Gaza is amazing to me, the people who live there despise you, and would quite possibly kill you if they had the chance.

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      the cool thing about having respect for human lives is that it doesn’t operate conditionally. glad to amaze you ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜

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      It’s amazing to see people like you who think queer people wouldn’t oppose ethnic cleansing. If you think we’d support genocidal fascists just because they’re Jewish, you have a Fox News level understanding of marginalized groups.

      You can dislike the reactionaries in a society without thinking the society should be destroyed by external reactionaries. The gay people in Gaza don’t deserve to die because they were unlucky enough to be born in a conservative county. Imperialist conquest is more likely to increase bigotry against us rather than decrease it.

      There’s no justification for anyone to support that genocide. It’s not only evil as fuck, but a bad idea for everyone. It’s why the US has grown cold on Israel recently; they’re a liability at this point.

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        I mean lots do, but once they get too big for their britches they tend to Epstein themselves or unalived by police. Should more of us act up in response? Sure. However, we’re the heartland of manufacturing consent and that system is effective. Activists die all the time in the USA, you just rarely hear much about them.

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    3 months ago

    You already deleted the previous post because of backlash, and said it was not something you wanted. Why repeat it?

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      just because i deleted my post doesn’t mean im just cool with the hateful dialogue going on.

      i stand by this one to a greater degree as it’s more thought out, more transparent, and posted with direct intent to call out bigotry (rather than with the intent of entertainment as the last one was).

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    I mean… The US has literally put itself in this position. After decades of your voters not caring and buying into propaganda, it is literally a product of your own making. Is that a good thing? No. But if you’re expecting sympathy for stabbing yourself for the past half a century then you’re going to need to look somewhere else.

    I, as a Canadian, also barely give a fuck considering America repeatedly invades every sovereign country on earth through either military might or through insane pressure from the US government to have things happen the way that they want. I’m having a really hard time giving a shit about how Americans feel right now when Americans have seemingly not given a shit about the rest of the planet. Sure. Not all Americans are like that but you chose your government. For the past few decades you all repeatedly choose dumb decisions that remove your own choice. No one cares. No one acts. No one protests. No one runs. No one does shit. It’s only now, since like 2016, people are actively paying attention to politics.

    So forgive me if I give the same attention to America that it gives to the rest of the world until it fucking wants something or sees someone else doing that it clutches it’s goddamn pearls over.

    Cry harder.

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      a country’s leadership is not its people. trans teens who are dying did not “put themselves in this position.” the same way Gazan infants are not responsible for their own oppression, starvation and death, nor the people of Ukraine.

      this is the point of the post and it’s crazy to nevertheless see your response be “cry harder”? incredibly disrespectful.

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        No, but the Gazan people doesn’t have any power over it’s government. Meanwhile you guys in the US live in one of the worlds most democratic countries (29 most democratic*) and therefore have alot of power over your government. Sure trans teens don’t have voting rights but on the grand scheme of things their a small minority of the US population and a majority of everyone in the US has indeed voted in support for their leaders.

        Democracy only works if the people are invested in it and care about their rights. If they don’t care the democracy will crumble. Democracy ain’t something you gain and then have forever, you have to look after it and take care of it. Saying that you don’t have any power and refusing to take action is not magicaly going to give you the power you find yourself lacking.

        “Cry harder” feels a bit rude though. Maybe you could instead have a nice day and try to change politics for the better.


        * from the Economists democracy index 2023. Palestine was in place 115

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          Living in the US for most of my life, and voting in every election, I can tell you your assumptions are incorrect: a few states control most of the power here due to the electoral college, and everything down to state and local initiatives gets lobbied into the ground by special interests.

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            a few states here control most of the power here due to the electoral college

            Yes I’m indeed aware of that. It’s a way of electiong representatives and it has a lot of implications (most notably the two party system), good and bad. Doesn’t really change things though it’s just a different (and weird) way to do democracy


            And everything down to state and local initiatives gets lobbied into the ground by special interests.

            Yeah, I have nothing to say about that. It really seems like a big pain but I’m having a really hard time imagining what it’s like since we don’t have that much lobbying here in Sweden, it feels really absurd for me.

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          where on earth are you drawing this “refusing to take action” from? just a bit confused by your turn there because you were going strong at first; this post is in no way encouraging apathy! :)

          stamets’ “cry harder” comment was pretty obscene though and i thank you for recognizing this.

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            That’s just the feeling I got from your post; making memes online and finding yourself powerless without doing anything. But ofc I can’t back that up…

            Sorry for that (:

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        A countries leadership is representative of its people. That’s why they were elected. Also literally why they’re called REPRESENTATIVES.

        You are not seperate from your government. You disagree with them, you voted against them, but they still represent you to the world stage.

        If you want something different then might I suggest doing something in your own country instead of whining online about the concept of people being compared to the people they vote for. Maybe try, oh I dunno, voting? Volunteering? Engaging with the local community instead of people online? Try pushing the narrative internally? It’s almost like complaining to people who have nothing to do with your country or its politics won’t be able to impact how you’re treated.

        You might as well whine about the wind while standing next to a fan and holding the damn remote.

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      In what way does this come near to glorifying the us?

      Why would whoever made this comic disagree with you and post this?

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    This one is spicy but it does work on many levels. Manufacturing consent exists, so unless your system is Anarchism, it doesn’t really reflect the “will” of the people.

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    Anarcho-communist movements do exist and actually work.

    They also get continuously assaulted by militias and law enforcement departments financed by plutocratic interests.

    Our oligarchs aphave shown they’d sooner scorch the earth than give up their power and become one of the commons. In fact, they are literally doing so.

    Our species just may not me into massive cooperative states, until we figure out a sociological trick to get the to favor lifting everyone (including themselves) rather than being satisfied they can kick at lower rungs of the hierarchy.

    But we really like dominance hierarchy and are glad to perpetuate it from schoolyard bullying to tribal genocide. Our primal drives to other and kill each other is currently beating out reason. My own hope is skeptical.