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  • Stamets@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I mean… The US has literally put itself in this position. After decades of your voters not caring and buying into propaganda, it is literally a product of your own making. Is that a good thing? No. But if you’re expecting sympathy for stabbing yourself for the past half a century then you’re going to need to look somewhere else.

    I, as a Canadian, also barely give a fuck considering America repeatedly invades every sovereign country on earth through either military might or through insane pressure from the US government to have things happen the way that they want. I’m having a really hard time giving a shit about how Americans feel right now when Americans have seemingly not given a shit about the rest of the planet. Sure. Not all Americans are like that but you chose your government. For the past few decades you all repeatedly choose dumb decisions that remove your own choice. No one cares. No one acts. No one protests. No one runs. No one does shit. It’s only now, since like 2016, people are actively paying attention to politics.

    So forgive me if I give the same attention to America that it gives to the rest of the world until it fucking wants something or sees someone else doing that it clutches it’s goddamn pearls over.

    Cry harder.

    • spujb@lemmy.cafeOP
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      a country’s leadership is not its people. trans teens who are dying did not “put themselves in this position.” the same way Gazan infants are not responsible for their own oppression, starvation and death, nor the people of Ukraine.

      this is the point of the post and it’s crazy to nevertheless see your response be “cry harder”? incredibly disrespectful.

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        A countries leadership is representative of its people. That’s why they were elected. Also literally why they’re called REPRESENTATIVES.

        You are not seperate from your government. You disagree with them, you voted against them, but they still represent you to the world stage.

        If you want something different then might I suggest doing something in your own country instead of whining online about the concept of people being compared to the people they vote for. Maybe try, oh I dunno, voting? Volunteering? Engaging with the local community instead of people online? Try pushing the narrative internally? It’s almost like complaining to people who have nothing to do with your country or its politics won’t be able to impact how you’re treated.

        You might as well whine about the wind while standing next to a fan and holding the damn remote.

      • Hjalmar@feddit.nu
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        No, but the Gazan people doesn’t have any power over it’s government. Meanwhile you guys in the US live in one of the worlds most democratic countries (29 most democratic*) and therefore have alot of power over your government. Sure trans teens don’t have voting rights but on the grand scheme of things their a small minority of the US population and a majority of everyone in the US has indeed voted in support for their leaders.

        Democracy only works if the people are invested in it and care about their rights. If they don’t care the democracy will crumble. Democracy ain’t something you gain and then have forever, you have to look after it and take care of it. Saying that you don’t have any power and refusing to take action is not magicaly going to give you the power you find yourself lacking.

        “Cry harder” feels a bit rude though. Maybe you could instead have a nice day and try to change politics for the better.


        * from the Economists democracy index 2023. Palestine was in place 115

        • spujb@lemmy.cafeOP
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          where on earth are you drawing this “refusing to take action” from? just a bit confused by your turn there because you were going strong at first; this post is in no way encouraging apathy! :)

          stamets’ “cry harder” comment was pretty obscene though and i thank you for recognizing this.

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            3 months ago

            That’s just the feeling I got from your post; making memes online and finding yourself powerless without doing anything. But ofc I can’t back that up…

            Sorry for that (:

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          Living in the US for most of my life, and voting in every election, I can tell you your assumptions are incorrect: a few states control most of the power here due to the electoral college, and everything down to state and local initiatives gets lobbied into the ground by special interests.

          • Hjalmar@feddit.nu
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            a few states here control most of the power here due to the electoral college

            Yes I’m indeed aware of that. It’s a way of electiong representatives and it has a lot of implications (most notably the two party system), good and bad. Doesn’t really change things though it’s just a different (and weird) way to do democracy


            And everything down to state and local initiatives gets lobbied into the ground by special interests.

            Yeah, I have nothing to say about that. It really seems like a big pain but I’m having a really hard time imagining what it’s like since we don’t have that much lobbying here in Sweden, it feels really absurd for me.

    • NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth
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      In what way does this come near to glorifying the us?

      Why would whoever made this comic disagree with you and post this?