To overcome this, I got a cheap low latency USB Bluetooth adapter. BT latency is still too much.
I got legit angry at it, but it makes sense, there is a very slight but noticeable delay in almost all bluetooth audio. Sony certainly wouldn’t want to taint their brand by something that small
It’s weird because there’s a 3.5mm port on the controller you can use. Which I usually end up using, or Bluetooth through my TV. But it’s really silly that they don’t just say “Bluetooth audio sucks, use at your own risk” and let you have it.
Bluetooth does, legitimately, suck, for gaming though.
The only official two-way audio profile (that is, mic and speaker working simultaneously) mandates a low bitrate mono audio.
Stereo audio itself has a slight latency which may be fine for music or even movies (especially with lip sync adjustments), but for gaming it can be a problem when your audio is a big part of your situational awareness.
I don’t mind not supporting Bluetooth for games, at least for multiplayer. 3.5mm to controller and a proprietary protocol for the audio is the perfect compromise. For single player or media, though, I’d agree it’s dumb.
I’m more of the camp it should warned that it is worse for gaming with an explanation of why, then just out right disallowing it. As was said, not all people are playing competitive nor does it present a problem for all games.
IMO even if it does suck for latency, not everyone is playing competitively and needs perfect latency and bluetooth should be supported for everything. Rhythm games on pc and mobile even have adjustment settings for terrible latency.
This is my issue with it. I have a good wired headset I plug in when I am playing online multiplayer or anything that needs good sound. I have a Bluetooth headset I use when I don’t want the hassle of wires or am listening to music and might stand up and walk around or something.
Let me have the choice and don’t treat me like an idiot for not caring about laggy audio when I’m just playing Football Manager and listening to Spotify.
As the message says, the PS5 doesn’t support any Bluetooth audio. It doesn’t matter if it’s made by Sony, you cannot connect audio devices to a PS5 via Bluetooth.
It’s so that they sell more of their first party gracias Headphones
doesn’t the switch also not support bluetooth tho
Ps4 does, what pepega shit is this
(It is a meme I stole I am not currently attempting to connect a headset, but I am nonetheless bothered by ps5s lack of bluetooth)
Most likely they’d have to pay royalties to use Bluetooth software on their device, and they deemed the cost too high. The same thing is true for HDMI and other things. They’re proprietary, so sometimes devices won’t support it so they don’t have to pay royalties. (Unrelated, but I honestly don’t understand how HDMI still exists though with DisplayPort being available without the licensing costs. It just controls so much of the market that it can’t die.)
why do companies want to pay royalties for hdmi when display port is better
99% of the people I know have no clue what Display Port is, while even my tech-illiterate grandparents know about HDMI.
The people you’re ultimately selling to are more important than almost anything else in the equation.
There was a point where hdmi was new too. DisplayPort is superior, it should be the new standard
I like the physical plug for display port more too. Is it just because there isn’t some LLC pushing adoption of display port like there is for HDMI?
Sony has totally bad vertical integration. It would be so powerful for them because they produce so much stuff.
they want you to buy their specific ps5 earbuds. It is absolutely inane, the tech is all there but not available. Personally my smart tv can connect to my bluetooth earbuds so I just do that
I thought the same thing when I tried to use my Sony headphones of a model that were made after the PS5 launched. They must be plugged into the controller to work, and when done that way the microphone doesn’t work making it worthless as a headset.
This is why I hate consoles. The only “consoles” I would use are PC-based, such as Steam Deck or self-built desktop PC with SteamOS.
This way I am not locked, games are cheaper and I can move/sync game save.
I agree.
If there’s something console exclusive that I want, I just emulate it. I don’t have the best computer, so it’s still a better experience on a real console (if it’s a new game, obviously), but it’s good for trying to see if I’ll like the game or not.
Console-only players love to tell that their console is much cheaper than PC, but what they don’t tell:
- Limited amount of games.
- No emulators.
- Can’t use as PC (e.g. elderly parents, for web browsing, with M&K)
- You can’t turn your console into home server/media player.
- Can’t have mods (both game and OS).
Xbox users, when SSD fails, they can’t replace it. They have to bring it to authorized repair service for SSD change for ~$200-$300.
Playstation, if you jailbreak it AND play online - Sony will permaban your account (I have personal experience from this). Which means - I will never ever buy Sony console again.
So what I am trying to tell that consoles (xbox/ps) are basically a scam.
Handheld PCs are good way to go. The Steam Deck created the competition from different OEMs making Windows handheld PCs.
I really hope someday we will have some way to transfer digital games between platforms
I agree
In fairness, I was using my Bluetooth headphones on my deck the other day and had to switch to external audio because the latency, slight as it was, was utterly messing with my ability to play Black Mesa.
At least they treat you like an adult and give you the choice to use bluetooth, even if it may give you a lesser experience with latency.
After Apple , Sony is the hardware tech company that I hate the most. They have always had retrograde and protectionist thinking with their products like Nintendo.Betamax x VHS is a great example
I’d say the HP is at least on par with them. They’re software locking which RAM or WiFi modules you can use in their laptops and theyuse as much proprietary components as possible in their desktops and servers, just because they can. And that’s not even talking about printers…
4th place I think would go to LG, but thankfully they’re not big enough to be noticeable
Happy to see Sony hate. Sony was Apple before Apple.
If anyone reading this is considering cheaper Sony bluetooth headphones versus the comparable Anker product, go with Anker! The speaker and a few models of headphones I’ve used were much better and cheaper than the comparable Sony product.
I’m on the Anker a3212 but I should have gone with the wi1000x: I actually wanted ambient passthrough. the difference was like 8 or 9 times the price so I’m still very happy with anker
Then again, the Xperias are pretty damn good and use stock Android without all the bloat that other manufacturers add.
The vita was amazing, but destroyed by the stupid proprietary memory cards that were obscenely expensive
I wonder how much of the world’s resources Sony has poured into their own proprietary formats that didn’t catch on because they kept them proprietary, from Betamax to Memory Stick.
To be honest, the real problem with betamax was that Sony never thought about longer tape lengths. They just designed a cartridge and then got in trouble when they had to catch up with VHS when VHS offered longer play time. People wanted to record a football game when they were away and you just couldn’t do that with early Betamax. And even later on, VHS stayed supreme in playback length. Even though video quality was never as good as Betamax. I guess this also goes to show is that most people don’t care about the quality of a device but the usability of a device. Which brings us right back and why people would want to use bluetooth audio even if it is a sub optimal experience.
First ps5 has no games than this
