This is kind of my point. lemmy.world doesn’t like what this community is doing so it’s not hosted on their server. I get and respect that.
What I don’t understand is the rationality behind blocking this specific community. It’s someone somewhere deciding what I can or can’t see on a remote host they have no control over.
It’s someone somewhere deciding what I can or can’t see on a remote host they have no control over.
I mean, they do have control over it in a sense. They can defederate from it so it’s no longer on their instance, which they did. You can still access the community from other instances though, like you’re doing now, so it’s not really a big deal. This is how federation is meant to function. People running their instances by their own rules.
I agree though, their rationale for defederation from this community does not add up for me either. But at the end of the day they can be as irrational as they want with their instance.
Yeah, we’re basically on the same page here. Their instance, their rules.
I’m hopeful that in the future, accounts will be “in the fediverse”, and end users can choose what they want to see or not see. Then it’s on the instance that’s hosting the community to determine what’s okay to host or not.
PKI? GPG? Private key shows you own the account. All instances keep a copy of your public key. You go direct to the instance to get the content. When you want to post you sign your message and send it along.
I’m sure smarter people then me have considered this and more so I’m not sure what’s possible.
Eh, I get both sides of the argument. They’re not deciding what you can or can’t see, they’re deciding what you can or can’t see while using their resources. Personally, that type of censorship would lead me to be looking for another instance, but I also get where they’re coming from. Kinda.
I get where they’re coming from too. I guess they just want to avoid any potential issues. That being said, the recent piracy issue reddit faced where companies tried to get reddit to reveal some users’ IPs for saying they torrented a movie is a good example that talking about piracy is not inherently illegal, as long as they weren’t actually sharing the files on the site.
A possible solution is continue federation but not allow caching and have users browse content from the community directly, so there’s no liability of having the content on .world servers. That’s resource intensive and might need major lemmy code changes though.
Also, as others mentioned, it seems this was started by a troll who was being petty and claimed the community is rule-breaking, and the admins were easily spooked.
This is kind of my point. lemmy.world doesn’t like what this community is doing so it’s not hosted on their server. I get and respect that.
What I don’t understand is the rationality behind blocking this specific community. It’s someone somewhere deciding what I can or can’t see on a remote host they have no control over.
I mean, they do have control over it in a sense. They can defederate from it so it’s no longer on their instance, which they did. You can still access the community from other instances though, like you’re doing now, so it’s not really a big deal. This is how federation is meant to function. People running their instances by their own rules.
I agree though, their rationale for defederation from this community does not add up for me either. But at the end of the day they can be as irrational as they want with their instance.
Yeah, we’re basically on the same page here. Their instance, their rules.
I’m hopeful that in the future, accounts will be “in the fediverse”, and end users can choose what they want to see or not see. Then it’s on the instance that’s hosting the community to determine what’s okay to host or not.
How would you want to handle authentication? The user stores their own keyring, like Nostr?
Never heard of Nostr.
PKI? GPG? Private key shows you own the account. All instances keep a copy of your public key. You go direct to the instance to get the content. When you want to post you sign your message and send it along.
I’m sure smarter people then me have considered this and more so I’m not sure what’s possible.
Eh, I get both sides of the argument. They’re not deciding what you can or can’t see, they’re deciding what you can or can’t see while using their resources. Personally, that type of censorship would lead me to be looking for another instance, but I also get where they’re coming from. Kinda.
I get where they’re coming from too. I guess they just want to avoid any potential issues. That being said, the recent piracy issue reddit faced where companies tried to get reddit to reveal some users’ IPs for saying they torrented a movie is a good example that talking about piracy is not inherently illegal, as long as they weren’t actually sharing the files on the site.
A possible solution is continue federation but not allow caching and have users browse content from the community directly, so there’s no liability of having the content on .world servers. That’s resource intensive and might need major lemmy code changes though.
Also, as others mentioned, it seems this was started by a troll who was being petty and claimed the community is rule-breaking, and the admins were easily spooked.