KDE is buttery smooth (165Hz, no stutters ever) for me and kwin is a much nicer compositor than mutter.
Man, I don’t understand this sentiment at all. I don’t know what would be different from my setups, but KDE has always been rock solid for me. Back when I used it on Mandrake Linux and today.
OP, might you be an Arch user?
I’m using KDE on Arch, no problems here.
KDE on Arch + Nvidia Wayland was a buggy experience for me a few months ago. But honestly, even X11 on Intel integrated graphics gets a few buggy releases every couple months.
I still love KDE though. Way better than MacOS
i usually stick to debian flavors, i haven’t had good experiences with arch
Used to crash a lot for me prior to 5.24 on Wayland, but now on 6.0 I’m dailing it. Full screen tearing works on Wayland as well so it’s suitable for gaming now
I always hear about people saying KDE breaks too easily. I’ve literally used it for years and I’ve never had serious issues outside of the Plasma 6 Beta for obv reasons. Like what are y’all doing to your DE?
Being on a rolling release I get a similar feeling, it just works and any noticeable bugs gets fixed pretty shortly
even upgrading to KDE 6 was hilariously smooth, almost scaryI think most issues with KDE are from fixed point release distros which just don’t bother with backporting minor bug fixes
KDE X11 is also quite janky for me. KDE with Wayland is pretty smooth. I’m using Fedora 40 btw so no idea if that is because Wayland is the new default when using the KDE spin.
KDE was always the bleeding edge side. I always stuck with Gnome in the past for stability.
Honestly, I’m using Cinnamon, it has all the stability and practicality of old style gnome with the eyecandy of KDE. However I also use MATE and XFCE if I wanna be frugal on resources.
Well yes, it’s ugly as hell but fairly stable and not really overrated.
Counterpoint: KDE is literally the best to ever do it and none even compare
do what? look good while it chokes on itself? because i’d say unity did that even better.
Be the most versatile and usable DE with the best applications
Also works on my machine (14 year old thinkpad)
You’re running a t410??
that’s amazing that it’s still usable today after 14 years, gives me hope that I can keep my t430 running until a similarly good device appears on the market
A t420, but yes
It’s not my main machine but it is my only laptop, and sticking an extra 8gb of ram and an ssd in it was all it needed to become very responsive even for modern software. Unless you’re playing video games or doing some heavyweight media editing projects, those older CPUs and GPUs can cope better than one might expect
Eyy a fellow t420 user in the wild! There is the rare game that can be played on it, I once survived off of Minecraft and holocure when my desktop’s motherboard decided “no” and it was my only machine until I could get a replacement
versatile
sure. idk about “the most”, i haven’t seen it do anything that other DMs can’t do with some tinkering. hell just installing cairo-dock yields a very similar ui experience imo.
usable
i can’t agree, my experience is things not staying where i put them, random crashes, layout and themes not “sticking” between logins, and occasionally the entire session crashing - all this from a fresh install on an untinkered-with system, and it’s been a consistent experience through the years. maybe you’re luckier than i am?
best applications
i never met an application i wanted to run that i couldn’t because i had the wrong DE. what are you talking about?
Hard disagree. My desktop is as stable as it’s pretty and I find it really good that both me and a friend of mine that uses KDE have very different workflows that KDE is able to adapt to. I am quite the fanboy of KDE tbh. It never failed me and is s dream to use everytime I turn on my PC
see i hear things like this but when i install it’s basically the same resource-hungry unstable mess as it was the first time i checked it out over a decade ago. i figured maybe it’s me and tried some distros that come with it preinstalled and it’s not any different. are you running a supercomputer or what?
I am running it on a modern laptop the distro is nobara
Valve should have used GNOME on SteamOS so I could actually use it with the touch screen, and no on can convince me otherwise
GTK4 has issues with some touch screens that causes the UI to lock up until the user pushes esc. No idea why.
Did their old Steam Machine not use Gnome? (Or was it just Debian that it was based on?)
Ah, a bleeding edge user who mistakes “nightly” with "stable.
Idk, i used KDE 6.0 stable on fedora and it was still a jankfest
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simple example: when I setup my distro the first time I didn’t set up a password for the user (i don’t remember if it was for the root user or the base user). to me, it meant that on next boot, I wouldn’t have to enter a password. (I know this is incredibly insecure, I was just testing things out in a safe environment, I figured that I would add a password later)
nope! the account used a default password instead. which I didn’t know, obviously, and had to look up. yes, this is really silly and my fault. but honestly, a good DE should have done something to stop that from happening; if anything, just not letting me not setting a password in the first place
and I’m not getting into the nightmare that was trying to figure out the desktop edit mode… (looks like KDE 6.1 is fixing that, thank god)
say what you will about distros like gnome or pantheon but this sort of stuff just doesn’t happen
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desktop edit mode is so fun though
That is not a KDE issue.
nice assumption. i’m a brokeass who typically runs hand-me-down hardware, stable all day.
also that copyright license is hilarious, you know it’s the neckbeard equivalent of posting “i do not consent to my data being collected” as your fb status right? or are you going to take a giant company to court for copying your nerd insult from lemmy?
KDE is a club/association by the way…
nobody likes a pedant
Given, you are talking about the OS UI Plasma… It’s very customizable. You can make it look like whatever you want… Like MacOs, like Windows 10, 11, etc…
if kde systemmonitor (the Plasma 6 replacement for ksysguard) would stop crashing every 5 seconds and become aware of which UI layer the thimg i’m dragging is on i would appreciate it
6.1 promises to fix some of that jank. I’m a few changes away from switching over.
been waiting over a decade, still janky. don’t hold your breath.
