I’m glad you’re finding content to your taste, but I kind of have the opposite problem: I find RPGs exhaustingly tedious and convoluted, and every genre is infected with its worst parts - grinding and levels and crafting and loot and fetchquests and equipment - because it’s the “in” thing to do. everything feels so damn confused about what kind of game it’s trying to be and ends up doing nothing well.
Have you tried playing CRPGs instead of RPGs? They tend to be a lot less heavy on grind and crafting, and the combat systems are usually much more fun IMO (though I totally understand if you’re not into that style of combat).
Diablo 2, skyrim, oblivion, the witcher 3… all felt like having a crappy boring job where i have to interact with people i don’t like all day and nothing really feels worth doing but i gotta pick something and do it anyway. it also doesn’t help that 90% of the genre is indistinguishable tolkien knockoff worlds either making no effort or trying way too hard to stand out as unique and I’m beyond sick of that crap.
I looked up CRPG because to me it mean “computer role playing game” but apparently now it refers to top-down point-and-click games under the heading “classic role playing game”, like that’s any more descriptive or clearly defined. Because this disjointed, confused genre needed more vaguery in the names of its subgenres.
Anyway most of these examples look like Diablo 2 so I’m going to assume that’s the type of game you mean - and I think it’s the same crap from a different camera angle. I don’t think I could say it’s “completely different gameplay” to something like Skyrim without feeling like a liar because the loop is bang on the same.
The top-down isometric RPG experience is what it always meant, because it’s a computer replication of the original tabletop RPG experience. TTRPGs were just called RPGs, and adapting them to game format added the c, therefore becoming cRPGs.
This stuff is pretty much the opposite of Diablo or Skyrim. Honestly insulting that you assume that I don’t know that, yet recommend it to someone who complains about RPG grind. I’m starting to think that your issue with games is more of a problem with you than the games, you seem very quick to judge a topic you apparently know nothing about.
I’m sorry the terminology is so vague and inconsistent, and I’m so disengaged from “gaming” culture and behind on genre labels that I honestly don’t know what you’re talking about. Do you mean the genre formerly known as “point-and-click adventures”, like Disco Elysium?
I’m glad you’re finding content to your taste, but I kind of have the opposite problem: I find RPGs exhaustingly tedious and convoluted, and every genre is infected with its worst parts - grinding and levels and crafting and loot and fetchquests and equipment - because it’s the “in” thing to do. everything feels so damn confused about what kind of game it’s trying to be and ends up doing nothing well.
Have you tried playing CRPGs instead of RPGs? They tend to be a lot less heavy on grind and crafting, and the combat systems are usually much more fun IMO (though I totally understand if you’re not into that style of combat).
Diablo 2, skyrim, oblivion, the witcher 3… all felt like having a crappy boring job where i have to interact with people i don’t like all day and nothing really feels worth doing but i gotta pick something and do it anyway. it also doesn’t help that 90% of the genre is indistinguishable tolkien knockoff worlds either making no effort or trying way too hard to stand out as unique and I’m beyond sick of that crap.
Those aren’t CRPGs. I’m talking the likes of Baldur’s Gate, Divinity: Original Sin or Shadowrun. Completely different gameplay.
I looked up CRPG because to me it mean “computer role playing game” but apparently now it refers to top-down point-and-click games under the heading “classic role playing game”, like that’s any more descriptive or clearly defined. Because this disjointed, confused genre needed more vaguery in the names of its subgenres.
Anyway most of these examples look like Diablo 2 so I’m going to assume that’s the type of game you mean - and I think it’s the same crap from a different camera angle. I don’t think I could say it’s “completely different gameplay” to something like Skyrim without feeling like a liar because the loop is bang on the same.
The top-down isometric RPG experience is what it always meant, because it’s a computer replication of the original tabletop RPG experience. TTRPGs were just called RPGs, and adapting them to game format added the c, therefore becoming cRPGs.
This stuff is pretty much the opposite of Diablo or Skyrim. Honestly insulting that you assume that I don’t know that, yet recommend it to someone who complains about RPG grind. I’m starting to think that your issue with games is more of a problem with you than the games, you seem very quick to judge a topic you apparently know nothing about.
I’m sorry the terminology is so vague and inconsistent, and I’m so disengaged from “gaming” culture and behind on genre labels that I honestly don’t know what you’re talking about. Do you mean the genre formerly known as “point-and-click adventures”, like Disco Elysium?
No, I’m not talking about adventures. Just look up some gameplay videos for Baldur’s Gate 3.
bruh this looks identical to diablo