The letter posted on Israeli journalist Amit Segal channel to 184,000 followers says that “the nation of Israel will stand up bravery to strike at its enemies,” according to a translation of the Hebrew. It goes on to justify targeting sites even “when the enemy hides behind a human shield.”

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    Fuck anyone who uses religion to excuse murder. The world would be a better place without your “gods”.

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    It’s important to acknowledge that these rabbis are fucking assholes and also that quite a few rabbis didn’t sign this letter (it was signed by dozens of rabbis, which isn’t a very large proportion). Religious leaders are people just like the rest of us and while they usually contain a larger proportion of empathic and “good” people… that certainly isn’t a universal rule (Source: grew up in Boston in the 90s).

    I hope their congregations see them for the assholes they are and kick them to the fucking curb.

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      Quite a lot of palestinians aren’t murderous terrorists either, but somehow they’re getting bombed regardless.

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      Yes, I read a report of a rabbi asking Biden for a ceasefire. This only comes to prove that we should try not to generalise people and that there are rotten apples in every nation!

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        That’s asymmetric warfare for you, if hamas operated like Israel and had bases out in the open they’d be annihilated in a week. Israel would probably do the same if hamas had overwhelming air superiority.

        Most Palestinians don’t support Hamas but most do support armed resistance, mostly because every other form of resistance has been taken away from them. That’s why they were voted in in 2006, and if Israel does succeed then whoever takes over after will probably just as militant, unless Israel gives them some other way to effectively protest mosque raids and west bank settlements.

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    Israel hates hospitals and wants to bomb them. US supports Israel because fuck healthcare.

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      Healthcare infrastructure is clearly where all the socialists and dope smokers are hanging out.

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      Sometimes a pat on the back from god is all you need to keep committing war crimes. Chosen people choosing people.

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        Half of the Old Testament is just the ancient Israelites going around and committing war crimes. Numbers and Joshua are particularly bad. Like the battle of Jericho, where they killed every human, ox, sheep, and donkey in the city and then wrote a kid’s song about it

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        Chosen people choosing people.

        …to kill.
        Why is the US supporting a country that’s fighting a religious war?

        I don’t care what people believe but when they implement those beliefs to harm others, that’s wrong.

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          I don’t care what people believe

          I used to take this stance too, but then I heard Matt Dillahunty say something that really stuck with me (paraphrasing here):

          Beliefs matter because it is the beliefs that inform our actions, and it is our actions that shape the world we all have to live within.

          Once I heard that I decided I was no longer just an atheist, but was profoundly ANTI-theist. There is absolutely no chance that there can be broad adoption of a secular humanist social philosophy as long as there is political control being asserted via religious institutions.

          It will never happen, full stop. Anyone who says otherwise is lying to themselves, and either unintentionally enabling or directly supporting the continued mass delusions of large swaths of the human population. It is imperative that this not be allowed to continue for the survival of our species. It is that fucking serious in my opinion.

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          Why is the US supporting a country that’s fighting a religious war?

          Continuing national traditions!

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      Actually, it’s probably quite pious of them. Old Testament God was not really one for mercy and was pretty big on obliterating your foes.

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        There’s a part in there about a king asking someone to bring him 400 or some foreskins to prove he was a mighty warrior.

        Like just straight up “go kill hundreds of non Jewish people and chop off the tip of their dicks as a flex”.

        Every single Abrahmic religion started out as a violent cult that wanted to extreminate everyone else one, and every one of those religions still have right wing extremists that think those were the good ole days. And they all want to say criticizing their lust for violence is bigotry against all of their religion

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    Newsweek is getting to the front page way too fucking much. And the community is eating it up like it’s a reliable source.

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    Another religion of peace. Judaism. Why are all abrahamic religions such a scourge on this planet?

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      Well dharmic religions aren’t peachy either. Have you seen what Buddhists are doing to Rohingya in Myanmar? They just lack Israel’s military might but they are on par in terms of brutality.

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      As i understood it from the reading of the bible, the god of Moses and Abraham is kind of a violent prick, this is all well in alignment with biblical old testament god; just lay waste to anyone who has slighted Yahweh’s chosen people. To answer somewhat literally: To be disgusted by this you must first reject that narrative which is currently taught as foundational to the bible

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    US Troops had this same dilemma during WWII. Germans housed in hospitals and churches had to be removed. They were and sometimes at high cost.

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    If there really is a military command center built beneath a hospital? Yeah, sure. And you should blame the people who put it there.

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    It is really weird to see some of the commentators get riled up about the Hamas Israel war, while being completely UNTOUCHED for instance by the war in Syria.

    What exactly makes the Hamas Israel war different for you?

    Is it, because it flamed up just recently?

    Is it, because you are personally involved somehow because of friends / family?

    Have you always had strong beliefs for/against Israel?

    Something else?

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          You want to know the difference between a (arab spring) civil war against a self imposed monarchy and a campaign of retribution genocide that is attempting to push an enclosed majority civilian population into a neighboring country under threat of annihilation?