…and that’s why the person you originally replied to asked their question. General popularity is generally a bad proxy metric for personal preference.

Is it impossible to like things outside the mainstream?

Probably needs a UN peace keeping force.

…but Hamas is also a political entity and the government of Palestine. Sanctions would matter if Gaza wasn’t already blockaded by Israel.

Trials in the Hague followed by imprisonment of all those guilty of war crimes. At this point that Includes most IDF members, their leaders, and the government.

Actually bring consequences to bear and let other Israelis know that this isn’t acceptable. Israel also needs to be cut off from the teat of the American military industrial complex.

Same standards for Hamas, but that’s a much smaller number.

Any further sabre rattling is met with quick and strong sanctions.

Basically the UN needs to do it’s job, but that needs America not to veto.

I meant, the sub that banned you also qualifies under the title of “the bad one”.

COVID was the auth left everywhere, at least in social circles.

…for “participating” in the Bad one.

I think you might need to be more specific.

So attack Hamas, not just whoever you can find that looks like them.

Israel was created by UN resolution 181, not the British.

Containers are the ultimate “works for me” in software development. My experience it makes for more fragile software that depends on its environment being perfect and nothing else will do.

Easy to say when someone isn’t forcing you to leave your home, but kettling you in an area 25x4 miles.

Whilst the British were in control, the partition plan was very much an international idea, and the British were long gone by the time of the founding of the Israeli state.

You’ve never had “drunk woman that won’t leave you alone and starts crossing the line”? That shit is aggravating whoever is involved.

…because none of those groups are Tankies and they are all unified against Tankies.

Tankies aren’t socialists or communists (not that those two things are the same either). They are the purist ideologues of communism, where compromise is defeat. Rampant in telling you why you’re wrong, and why only the purest form of communism will bring nirvana. All without understanding the consequences of what they propose.

Even the Communists don’t want them on their side.

To say that Israelis aren’t the only people needing protection.

Everybody to the left side…bombs right side.

Everybody to the right side…bombs left side.

See… We didn’t target anyone.

Western governments put that shit in place.

Indeed. I’ve learnt more about the interwar period in this area since this all kicked off. Previously I’d though the Palestinian displacement was all post-WW2, but that’s just when it escalated massively and Israel’s statehood was declared.

The British took control of the area post-WW1 and the fall of the Ottoman Empire (Turks). Jewish immigration started in the following decade. This was already causing conflict, and there was a partition plan which the British (by my reading) were against. I think the British saw the forced displacement of people already there as something which they didn’t want to police. The plan went ahead and the British handed over control (Peace-out!). Then WW2 happened and migration soared for obvious reasons. The effect was more displacement, more enclaves, and the eventual creation of the nation of Israel, all whilst the Palestinians weren’t recognised as a nation of their own.

A couple of brief wars with their neighbours later and Israel has grown again encircling Gaza. Fast forward through a ton of conflict to today.