I like Lemmy as a substitute for a general non-specific social forum to engage with others. It’s not as popular so it’s more intimate here.

What’s missing is the general popularity and existence of robust communities. I think this is a good thing because it drives me to find other more specific websites and forums related to my interests. Some of those communities are harder to find and have less content though.

There’s a middle ground between Lemmy and Reddit that doesn’t yet exist. The hope (I think) is that the infrastructure will mimic the best of Reddit while rejecting the worst of Reddit.

I was complaining about the Reddit echo chamber for probably close to ten years. The arrows have not been used as designed for a long time. They’re supposed to mark an item as relevant or not relevant, not as a like or dislike. Had they been used properly… well, let’s put it this way, AI is now being trained based on what people like, not based on what information is relevant or correct.

Incidentally, I was brought to Lemmy for a reason similar to you. I posted one innocuous question on one sub that got me banned from a totally unrelated sub where I wasn’t even a member (evidently, engaging with one sub, regardless of your reasons or opinions, is enough for another sub to ban you, even if you fully support the other sub).

Anecdotally, about three years ago is when I started to pick up on it.

I watched five minutes. That, and the few minutes I’m taking to write this, is about all the time and mental capacity I can care to afford Reddit now.

I’m so glad to have places like Lemmy and Mastodon and the individual forums where I can exchange ideas with others. Reddit has become a pile of dung over the past five years. It’s just full on nonsense and lies and rage bait. I was tired of calling people out for their misrepresentation of the facts and their twisting of the truth to fit their narrative. Although, I realize this is certainly not a Reddit-centric problem. It’s just the place I hung out the most where I was most exposed to it.

The social media monster pointed to companies already trialing free-form ads, which include Just Eat Takeaway, Kraft Heinz, and Leica, all of which found the format capable of “driving upper funnel results.”

Actually, I’d really like to see a screenshot of these Leica ads if anyone comes across one.

Interesting that you say that. I used one deletion tool to delete everything then a couple days later I ran another tool and found there was still a lot left.

It’s an odd situation.

Reddit is a valuable resource of information. Any web search will often offer at least one result directing you to Reddit. The problem though is that sometimes that information is wrong or biased.

I just deleted all 16 years of my Reddit content this past week; and then my account. I learned a lot, discussed a lot, and shared a lot in those years. It’s a little sad to scrub that from history (also very liberating and satisfying).

On one hand, the Reddit website is hosting a magnitude of data I could never comprehend. That costs money. And as a tool that so many millions of people use and rely on, shouldn’t we financially contribute to the thing we use and rely on?

On the other hand, straight up selling our information, with so much of it being very personal and intimate, should be a crime.

And, on the bionic hand, shouldn’t we get a say as the content creators as to how our information is used to train an artificial intelligence? Not whether we permit it to use our content but, as a community, we should be afforded the input to decide how the future of AI uses our information. Ten, twenty, fifty years down the road, AI will have learned from our memes and biases and the stories we made up just for karma.

Reddit is like the Bible. Sure, there’s some valuable lessons in there but most of it is bullshit and unverifiable. Still, a mass intelligence will take it as fact and pick and choose how it wants to use what it learns to guide it for centuries.

Come on now. There are no legit health benefits to wine. A better example would be arguing the health benefits of not drinking wine in a wine sub. And I think that would be a valid contribution. Although, still not an analogue to the topic here. You’re taking about science when we’re discussing social and cultural norms that have changed over time. Places like T_D should be open to others to come in and offer differing opinions. As should whatever far left leaning subs exist.

Fram what I can tell, the Rogan sub seems to be both pro and anti Rogan. Seems likes a generally open space for discussion. As much as I think the guy is as dumb as a pound of butter, he promotes the idea of free thought. Unfortunately, free thought means stupid people gravitate towards stupid ideas. Which is why I’ve said earlier that the ‘why’ is more important than the tangible results.

Yep. I used to see it mostly from that perspective as well. I was more in favor of censorship in places like twitter due to all the mis/disinformation. I’m not so sure though. I mean, ideally, we’d have less stupid and less manipulative people. But our culture rewards emotions more than logic and lies tend to evoke more emotion than facts. I don’t know the solution but censoring questions and punishing people for engaging in conversation isn’t helping anyone. Again, focusing on the people who make things up, I think, may be misplaced. Why are people making things up and why are people believing them?

I get it, but… This also prevents people from speaking in opposition to that group. Because if you dare speak against them, you’re punished by the same group you’re trying to speak on behalf of.

Yes, I am aware that “freedom of speech” is a public right that doesn’t apply to private entities. r/JoeRogan has the right to do what they want and r/JusticeServed has “the right” to do what they want in response. This isn’t about “rights”, it’s about what is right. What this sub is doing is hypocritical - which they have “the right” to do.

This actually just serves to strengthen the thing you are trying to fight, as they are fueled by anger.

Agreed. My monkey brain is definitely telling me I should “side” with the rogan sub in retaliation of this event. I’m now a bit more sympathetic to those calling out about censorship.

It’s really not that hard to see how some people can easily become indoctrinated by outsider groups. I think a lot of social issues in this country are due to people being ousted and fearful of losing their privileges then turning to groups that support them while the government seems like they’re working against them. Betrayal leads to resentment, resentment leads to opposition.

Everyone’s focused on the peripheral issues and tangible results without giving much if any attention to the cause of them. You did a thing, you’re banned. But why was the thing done? What were the motivations and intent? Why (rhetorically) are people afraid of immigrants, other races, books, gun regulations, science, etc.? The internet and media are FULL of reaction and reaction to the reaction but where’s the discussion? Where’s the open dialog? Where are the civic leaders trying to bridge the gap between diverse and opposing groups? No one fucking listens any more.

I’m not getting into how long a copyright should last. I don’t have a meaningful opinion on it.

What it seems people are overlooking (or forgiving?) is that the guy published a book about characters (IP) he doesn’t own. Taking something that doesn’t belong to you is theft.

Whether or not Amazon should option his material is irrelevant if he didn’t get permission to use it in the first place. I mean, fan fiction is one thing. Creative license and educational purposes could be argued. But he published a freaking book!

Do you think Zack Snyder should get to put out a Rebel Moon and call it “Rebel Moon: A Star Wars Story” without getting permission or paying for licensing? Is this the reality this sub believes we live in? If you write a novel and I read it and soon start writing better more successful stories based explicitly on your characters without crediting you or sharing in my profit, how would you feel? Should your work be public domain? Is that what you (collective) feel is best for “the public”?

I don’t really have an opinion on what should happen with the work either. I could see some cases where it would be a major loss for the public to have the work erased. This could be catastrophic for classic literature. For something so new and not having any established cultural significance (as much as you wish it did), I’d go with whatever a judge believes is best under the law. You’re welcome to argue the validity of the law, and I may agree with you, but that’s a different conversation.

Are you all children in here? Did you have nap time and your sippy today?

Everything you just said is the opposite of reality and facts. What’s going on in this sub?

There is a new work by an author using someone else’s intellectual property. That’s what’s this is about. That’s how they were sued.

Copyright laws specifically promote new ideas by punishing those who re-use existing ideas.

You can profit from others’ ideas by asking permission and paying a licensing fee. This happens all the time. It’s how business is done every day.

This entire sub is delusional. You believe in things which are untrue. You make things up to justify theft. It’s funny and it’s sad. I really don’t know where you get these irrational theories or how you’d ever justify them in a court.

If you want to live in literal communism, sure, you can establish that any idea anyone expresses belongs to the world. In the world we actually live in, we have laws protecting people’s intellectual property in order for them to generate content and profit from those original ideas. Otherwise, what’s the point of having an idea at all if anyone can make money from it. This further promotes new original ideas that aren’t derivative of existing ones. This is exactly what the OP stated and I agreed with.

K. Evidently reading the room is more important than reading the article.

I’m not defending anyone. I’m explaining the contradiction in the previous statement.

It’s mind boggling how anyone could possibly consider otherwise. Aside from your own life, there’s nothing more belonging to oneself than their thoughts.

Yes, copyright exists to encourage new works - which the author ignored by creating content violating copyright law. Never mind the public, this dude stole from the copyright holders. He’s a pirate and he got caught.

The amount of people in this thread not reading more than the headline is mind numbing.

So, you won’t even click a link and glance at a platform unless it’s free (/ has ads that you can bypass with a blocker)?

Here’s the important bits…

How do the creators get paid?
Nebula profit is divided 50/50 between the creators and Standard. The creator pool is paid out based on watch time.

Who owns Nebula?
Nebula is owned and operated by Standard and the creators, with Curiosity Inc (CuriosityStream) holding a minority stake and a board seat. There are no plans to bring in additional investment.