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  • Sorry, several things here.

    “Rights before immigrants”, so “just” a higher standing than people of different origins? I’m sure we have a word for this.

    And this is what I’m saying. Yes, they do not only want “no immigration”. There must be “order” too. There is no “order” if we do not give police the means to achieve it. There is no “order” if you allow scientists to tell you that these are not effective ways to achieve order. There is no “order” if the people trying to achieve the “order” are being critiqued.

    Then in many cases it is not about “want”. “Want”? What does it matter? “I voted for the totally-not-nazis-anymore-party, because I read their pamphlet and they just wrote good things there. I’m a good guy and thought they were best. Oh, these guys on the telly says that one of the things I thought was a good thing was really fucked up. That makes me feel bad and stupid. But I’m a good guy. Did I do something wrong? The totally-not-a-nazi-anymore-guy says it is not fucked up, but good actually. That makes me feel comfortable. I’ll adopt that view instead. I’m a good guy.” Lucky us! This guy did not “want” free speech to be forbidden in universities, or which ever.




  • There is a difference. But what you are saying is not true, bacause it was tested in Sweden. All parties in parliament, except three parties at like 18% votes in total, said the far-right party have always been correct when it comes to immigration (“always” including when they were an explicit nazi party), and switched to their line. If the voters understood and did not want all that other shit, they should have switched. They did not.

    But there is a difference. The people who run the party today, who joined it when it was an explicit nazi party, probably have a certain goal in their mind where they need all these steps. The voters, in general, are just rationalizing why they vote for the steps.
















  • The list is so long though, it is impossible to give a good overview in a post. Like the spokesperson (not sure if that title is accurate, more of a public frontfigure) mentioned in the above post also made post of her listening to Kanye West, right after all the antisemitic stuff, while calling Anne Frank “hornyness personified” or something like that. She is still in the party, last I heard, they just moved her to a less public position. And that is just one person.

    The party elite and their youtube channel often talks about things like there being a group of people in the public institutions with a explicit goal to annihilate the swedish nation by, among other things, the import of muslims. They have said that the means for which to rid sweden of this “totally not a conspiracy theory” is to, I kid you not, turn sweden into the same type of autocracy as they have in Hungary. That is their publically stated goals which they have defended for years.

    I do not trust these nazis on anything they say. If there is anything true to article it would be that their long support for Orban does not look too good now that they try to be pro-NATO and he is the last person in their way.