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You can always explain your own reasoning about why a person should vote for people who might be reading.
In that case it wouldn’t.
We’re talking about a post that uses a meme image about the trolley problem to make a statement about the American election.
Part of the whole conceit of that rhetorical structure is that voting works. If I don’t agree with it personally that’s fine, but I didn’t comment in opposition to the premise that voting works, but instead in opposition to the premise that a person who does believe voting works is compelled by any structure, physical or otherwise, to choose between the two worst candidates.
You brought up voting working in reply to me. I’m interested in hearing what you want to build off that. Why not just lay it out?
I personally do not accept your premise that voting works.
but for a person who does, a third party, blank selection or just not engaging with that system are all ways to not be complicit in the actions of candidates.
If you want to talk about the repercussions of someone believing that voting works, I’ll gladly listen to you, but that’s not me and I’m gonna have to deal with it hypothetically.
I reject the premise that voting necessarily works, but even for a person who is operating under the assumption it does, no one is forcing you to choose between the two bad candidates.
There are third parties, a person can leave a position blank, and even if a person believes that voting works, they could still simply choose not to engage with that system and do something else instead.
You literally don’t have to be complicit.
Not pictured: a giant hand holding the lever flipper in place, forcing their participation and complicity in one major candidates genocidal intentions over another.
There’s always time to walk away from omelas.
No worries. You’re always welcome on the “democrats fuck off” side. There’s definitely somewhere here with your politics and idea of appropriate direct action.
No thanks.
They’re doing an awful job of harm reduction and I’m not waiting for fundamental systemic changes to the country’s election process to withhold support from the party that’s rug pulled me for 24 years.
The best time to stop supporting the democrats and put my energy elsewhere was 2000, the second best time is now.
I will also never vote for Joe Biden for any position again.
Idk if it’s even possible to vote uncommitted in the general, but I’m voting psl.
By that logic if I could vote for trump but do not, I have helped the democrats.
Of course, neither candidate is declared the winner by tallying up what third party votes or lack thereof ended up helping them, they’re declared the winner because of the votes cast explicitly for them.
That doesn’t make any sense.
By that logic it’s a vote in a way that helps Biden as well and the two cancel out.
It’s not a binary choice. I can vote for a third party in the general or not vote for any candidate who will continue the genocide.
lol take that fucking boot out of your mouth.
What is a priv? You’ve called me one about a half dozen times and I don’t know what it means.
First things first: I will never vote for joe Biden for any office. Never have and never will. You’re not gonna convince me to.
With that out of the way, you can use the fact that a party which doesn’t line up perfectly with your values needs your support to get them to take action that you want. It’s not cruel or a betrayal. If you think there’s something the democrats can be doing better, now’s the time to get it because they need you.
There’s not a single reason to just vote blue no matter who to use a turn of phrase from years past. If you think Biden and the democrats are doing a good job then push them to go even farther. If you think they’re doing a bad job but better than a different party, push them to do a better job.
What’s great about using elections as a time to try to get concessions is it gives people who feel left out by parties a chance to be brought in. If the party makes good on their promises then they can get voters for life!
Doesn’t a better democrat party with new support sound better than slogging out to the polls to vote against someone?
this might be the saddest and dumbest thing i’ve ever seen.
there’s immigration. when birthrates are too low they’ll just open up immigration.
even if there wasn’t a simple and straightforward response with historical precedent that hamstrings the sentiment expressed in the op, it’s insanely depressing that anyone would ever think to pen the words “i’ll kill myself to hurt you!” as anything other than the tragic, diseased ravings of a person abused and neglected by everyone around them.