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Can we not give them ideas? Thanks.

I don’t know, the memes seem to be working…

As a Turkish person, ooph. Sorry you had to deal with that.

We’ve got some nice coming from Turkey, but also a bunch of shit heels. These days the latter outnumber the former, sadly.

As a Turk, let me just add:

It’s very well known that the AA is basically just Tayyip’s propoganda machine. It’s a very hard bias towards whatever he’s looking to say, at that point in time, not necessarily right or left wing.

Read the quote:

They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country.

It implies that they - the Arabs - see it as their land was stolen, from their perspective. It’s not a statement of fact.

Edit: Also, not a news article - looks like you’re just trying to rile people up by posting incendiary Wikipedia links. Seems like a violation of rule #1 to me.

Vote’s done, now - CHP cinched it. Good times.

Cheers, I just started dropping connections to /link as well, as a result.

Edit: Looks like it was quickly fixed and released in 0.0.40, very cool.

And the little girls who sang for him at one of his rallies.

The relevant part, towards the end of the article:

Some were interrogated and tortured or otherwise ill-treated in a disused outpatient’s clinic within the grounds of Gaza City’s main al-Shifa hospital.

Sounds like they were using an empty building on hospital grounds, 9 years ago.

Like, I get what you’re saying, but that still doesn’t make it okay to attack the primary - and most active - hospital in the area (9 years after the fact).

Edit: But, also, holy shit fuck you Hamas, and your fucking Shariah courts.

Can you provide a source for that?

It’s called Novichok.

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Thanks for all the information, your comments have been very insightful!

I might’ve been a bit too vitriolic in my response as well, sorry about that - tensions are running high over here.

Still, I truly believe that a lot of people that voted against their own interest are victims of themselves and the lies they were fed. But I’m definitely too soft hearted and naive at times.

They are victims, for sure. The hashtag “pişmanım” (which translates to “I regret it”) was all over the net the week after the election.

Having said that, we spent years warning them that they would get fucked if they didn’t change course, and they chose not to listen (time after time again). Now their chickens have come home to roost, and life here is even worse than it was a year ago (during said disasters) - which is saying something.

C’est la vie - at least I can afford to drink.

I didn’t vote for him and am living here (have been for 30 years). I do have sympathy for myself, thanks for bringing that up.

And I have no sympathy for the people that voted for him based on lies.

You’re not from here, so allow me the following assumption: you have no idea the collective trauma caused by the recent catastrophes (the earthquake to the East, chief among them). For people to still vote for the folk who literally caused or assisted in the causes of these tragedies, after so much needless death, has lead me to adopt the view of: “you want this shit so bad? You can have it”.

I’m done protesting and getting tear gassed. So done tip-toeing around conversations lest I get beaten or arrested for saying the wrong thing. So done walking around with a “go bag” in case another fucking coup happens and I find myself stuck on the wrong side of a divided city.

I’m moving away the first chance I get. I’m only sad for those who don’t have the same opportunities.

But, yeah, please tell me more about who I should have sympathy for.

It’s not a fair country, lol. But, regardless, things do work a bit differently here as people are aware of the fact he owns and controls the main news channels - folk aren’t under the illusion that they’re fair and balanced, so that metric isn’t as relevant as - say - an election in the West where people are more likely to trust their media.

People went with him mostly because he promised stability, and the opposition don’t have a great track record with that (even though they really gave it their best this time around). A lot can also be said about Kılıçdaroğlu and his refusal to step down… But that’s a much longer discussion.

Well, an argument can be made that his party did give up Istanbul and Ankara in the previous round of local elections (albeit with quite a fight), so it serves to reason that they’re not entirely opposed to the democratic process (most of their money is hidden in off-shore tax havens and not Turkey, so they can always bail if the political scene turns hostile towards them).

The issue is that, no matter how you see the current political climate, the dude won the recent elections fair and square (as far as we know).

The people voted for this, so let them enjoy it. To me it’s like Brexit, except I’m living here and watching it happen to me as well.

Of course. All that talk about how “Islam is against raising interest rates” goes out the window once the elections are over.

It’s just a shame it took this long, we could have used actual economic action a few years back.

Mortifying. I remember reading about the abductions when they first happened. Genuinely mortifying. All the people involved deserve the worst to happen to them…

A mass murder of innocent students because of fear and a misunderstanding. Now I see why people are leaving the country in droves.

LGBT people: “We have a right to exist.”

‘Free speech absolutists’: “Ugh, take your political bullshit someplace else.”

No idea how people think this is a valid way to talk about people literally fighting for their right to simply be present in public spaces without people attacking their very being.