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Yeah I don’t want to just see content from people I agree with. Guess I’m crazy.

Did the US have people there? Top of this thread says “word is” which is like Trump doing his “people are saying” bullshit.

Links to reputable sources?

Again, you’re overly concerned with the source rather than the content. Do you think VOA is making up an EU condemnation?

That can’t be because anyone who thinks that would simply open another tab in their browser and look for a different source which may corroborate this one.

So you just want to be obtuse. Literally nothing I say will convince you. Considering that, I think we’re done here.

For anyone else reading the thread: https://apnews.com/article/european-union-condemn-hamas-human-shields-2c0d1c04cb38fc4acce37d8d624e1a3f

You didn’t say shit. You conveyed your distrust of NYT.

I guess we only have the EU to reference here too: https://www.voanews.com/a/eu-condemns-hamas-for-using-civilians-at-gaza-hospitals-as-human-shields-/7353026.html

Should I find more?

We’ll ignore the fact that martyrdom is tightly intertwined with their religion.

They’re religious fanatics. Similar to US conservatives which I assume you’d have no problem criticizing.

Your reply doesn’t address my assessment of Hamas’ attitude toward their own citizens. It’s nice and snarky though and will do well here on Lemmy.

Y’all mind if we stop pretending Hamas isn’t totally cool with getting their own citizens killed?

GAZA CITY — The emergency room in Shifa Hospital is often a place of gore and despair. On Thursday, it was also a lesson in the way ordinary people are squeezed between suicidal fighters and a military behemoth.

Dr. Awni al-Jaru, 37, a surgeon at the hospital, rushed in from his home here, dressed in his scrubs. But he came not to work. His head was bleeding, and his daughter’s jaw was broken.

He said Hamas militants next to his apartment building had fired mortar and rocket rounds. Israel fired back with force, and his apartment was hit. His wife, Albina, originally from Ukraine, and his 1-year-old son were killed.

“My son has been turned into pieces,” he cried. “My wife was cut in half. I had to leave her body at home.” Because Albina was a foreigner, she could have left Gaza with her children. But, Dr. Jaru lamented, she would not leave him behind.

A car arrived with more patients. One was a 21-year-old man with shrapnel in his left leg who demanded quick treatment. He turned out to be a militant with Islamic Jihad. He was smiling a big smile.

“Hurry, I must get back so I can keep fighting,” he told the doctors.

He was told that there were more serious cases than his, that he needed to wait. But he insisted. “We are fighting the Israelis,” he said. “When we fire we run, but they hit back so fast. We run into the houses to get away.” He continued smiling.

“Why are you so happy?” this reporter asked. “Look around you.”

A girl who looked about 18 screamed as a surgeon removed shrapnel from her leg. An elderly man was soaked in blood. A baby a few weeks old and slightly wounded looked around helplessly. A man lay with parts of his brain coming out. His family wailed at his side.

“Don’t you see that these people are hurting?” the militant was asked.

“But I am from the people, too,” he said, his smile incandescent. “They lost their loved ones as martyrs. They should be happy. I want to be a martyr, too.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20230530025152/http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/09/world/09fighter.html

It is totally justified because i am closeted racist, so who cares about women and children being murdered if they aren’t part of my group

This is such a tired response, I’ve already replied to it here.

Keep reducing everything to the color of people’s skin and you’ll continue to be confused about lots of other people’s positions on a wide variety of topics.

I’m sure it makes life simpler for you though.

Just in case you’re not totally gone, consider the Russia Ukraine conflict.

If Ukraine took action to recover their kidnapped citizens and it ended like this one did, I’d hold the exact same position. And gasp their skin is white!

Unlike lots of “progressives”, my opinion of right and wrong doesn’t change with people’s skin color.

Think whatever you like.

Darn. Guess we just have to let Hamas and anyone who comes after do whatever they want as long as they keep their human shields nearby.

I don’t follow

I also wish Hamas didn’t use human shields.

“We know where our people are but Hamas has surrounded themselves with their own citizens. What should we do?”

“Damn. I guess we’ll have to abandon our people then. Pack it up.”

Stop letting Hamas’ tactic work on you.

I don’t know if I’d even blame the kidnappers for those deaths.

What the fuck?

Evacuating civilians, calling phones and dropping leaflets to get civilians further from harm is a strange way to do that but ok.

Title says Hamas.

That’s about what I expected.

Thanks!

I have no issue with the non English part. We don’t have a monopoly on truth.

I just don’t know how I’m supposed to keep track of all these news sites to know which are to be taken seriously and which can be dismissed.

Before they replied how am I supposed to know if they’re a Reuters or InfoWars? It takes too much bandwidth.

Hamas knows countries following the Geneva convention are more careful with noncombatants nearby.

That affords them some level of protection and you’re demonstrating exactly how with the genocide comment, besides Israel actually being more careful.

Hamas actively tries to get citizens killed to get people like you to say those things and lobby their governments to stop attacking them.

Weird way to conduct a genocide - warn everyone to evacuate an area before attacking your target.

I brought Reuters and you brought… whatever that site is.

Arguing this stuff on Lemmy reminds me of arguing with right-wingers on Facebook back when I had one - y’all post the most obscure sources.

And the children thing comes up too instead of acknowledging the fact that Hamas actively uses human shields by camping with civilians.

So, again, if they’re going to camp with civilians, expect this to happen again.

That link is broken. But here’s one.

Israel’s military, which is trying to eliminate Hamas in Gaza, said it was investigating reports that a strike it carried out against commanders of the Islamist militant group in Rafah had caused the fire.

If Hamas is camping amongst citizens, expect this to happen again.