This is so wrong it’s absurd, it gives you absolutely no information on the history of this conflict. The current conflict dates back to the early 20th century, well before world war 2.

It’s called Pleroma.

No matter what you think of it, someone’s going to try to guilt and browbeat you. Support the Palestinians? You’re antisemitic and support terrorism. Support Israel? You’re supporting an oppressive apartheid state. So who cares whether you’re allowed, this is the world we live in, no matter what you think about anything there’s someone out there who’s going to call you a bad person for it. Just learn about things before you form an opinion, use your judgment and critical thinking and then figure out the truth of whatever it is.

Personally, I don’t support either side. I can see how they both kind of brought each other’s retaliation on themselves. I just lament innocent people dying and dislike how it affects me.

The average Republican voters doesn’t care what the facts are.

FTFY

Can you see the tip of your nose?

Seriously, this person has no clue. They’re talking about this like it’s more of the same old conflict we are all used to. This is of a completely different character than anything we have seen. There will be no concessions, no ceasefire. Israel is fucking mad. And when they get mad they seriously fuck up whoever they are mad at in a very efficient and indisputable fashion. They might offer a ceasefire after they’ve exacted a very high cost in retaliation. The Gaza strip is royally fucked.

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Nelson Mandela was a terrorist, and also a hero.

Being a terrorist, objectively with no emotional connotations connected, is about tactics. Plenty of freedom fighters use terroristic tactics. Plenty of groups that aren’t labelled terrorists use terrorist tactics. A key strategy in warfare is to inspire fear in your enemies. The underdog always has these tactics in his back pocket, and often it’s his most powerful weapon. Sometimes he’s a brute and a wannabe dictator or aspiring genocide committer, sometimes he’s a freedom fighter, often enough he’s both.

At the end of the day, all warfare involves killing people for strategic reasons. It’s brutal. Hurling mud with the word “terrorist” does nobody any good in understanding the situation. It is very useful though in propagandizing a population and bypassing their critical thinking capability for an emotional reaction. Sanitizing war though as if there’s a good boy type behavior and a bad boy type behavior is senseless. In war, the worst things that can happen to people happen to people, always and forever. People engaging in war do what they need to do. Whether its right or wrong depends on whether you buy their narrative about their motivations, and whether you have unwavering universally applied principles of right and wrong.

I have no fucking idea man. I just know that Israel doesn’t fuck around. Whatever they do, it will be decisive and effective.

This is incorrect. The Americans seized Loyalists and executed them, the Red Army killed civilians and genocided several ethnic groups, the Chinese did it, the Cubans did it, everybody does it. The distinction between “terrorist” and “freedom fighter” is who controls the narrative after the dust has settled. Warfare is atrocity.

No, Israel has declared war. This is a BFD. A couple hundred dead, 1500 injured, Hamas is going door to door executing people. 2000 rockets fired into Israel. They’ve captured territory. They’ve captured the general of the Israeli defence force. This isn’t some border skirmish like we have heard about for a couple of decades, this was a very competent full scale attack.

Israel doesn’t fuck around. Even if you don’t agree with them, they’re very militarily capable. Israel is about to turn Gaza into rubble in under a week. In the 6 day war, several Arab countries formed a coalition and attacked Israel, and got so thoroughly buttspanked they haven’t done it since. Within 6 days they conquered all the way to the current Jordanian border, the Golan Heights from Syria, and the entirety of Sinai, which they returned as a gesture. Gaza is about to get glassed.

Yes, and that’s OK.

Its irrelevant for this topic of discussion. Pronouns are a linguistic element with already clearly defined rules, proper nouns are chosen and have always been chosen. To answer you I’d say calling someone by some name other than theirs to be disparaging is not OK, referring to someone using a pronoun corresponding to their biological sex is perfectly OK.

Why would they think I’m an asshole? I have not misgendered someone, I have not even stated my opinion on that. I’m just asking, if that’s the compromise would you all be OK with it.

I don’t particularly care. It’s not really harassing me, when they address me they’d say “you”. They’d be doing it in conversation with someone else. I wouldn’t hang out with someone that did this, but it wouldn’t make me angry or anything, it’s literally not my problem at all, I know who and what I am.

How do you know my old name? You aso me my name and I tell you.

Someone choosing their own name is already common enough, and is not a question of distortion of language. It’s not the same as pronouns.

I’m not am asshole to other people.

The interesting thing about pronouns is that the only pronoun used to directly address someone is not gendered, it’s “you”. So it is not actually possible to directly misgender someone.

The words “he” and “she” aren’t slurs. Comparison to the word “cuck” don’t make any sense. Should a job require someone to use preferred pronouns? Well I go back to what I was discussing about free association, if they want to sure, if they don’t that’s OK too, but going after a workplace without such a requirement takes things a bit farther than just wanting to be left alone.

And as far as teachers, I actually don’t think kids should be forced to go to school, so that would really be a different issue. If they’re old enough to determine their gender they’re certainly old enough to educate themselves or determine if they even want an education.

Well that’s good, I 100% agree with you. But judging by the votes I’m getting for asking this question, I don’t think most people that support the transgender movement do.

Yeah, but it’s not without contention. Some people believe it should be illegal to use pronouns in reference to someone’s biological sex. I’m just asking people if they’re OK with it, if they like that, to distinguish from people who do that and people who harass and berate transgender people. When someone says “they just want to be left alone” I’m trying to get whether they view that distinction as valid or not.

So you’re OK with that? Not personally associating with people that use pronouns to refer to biological sex, but let them be themselves and do their thing and associate with who they want?