no.

If you use the same talking points and terminology (“low-value man” lol) as they do, then I have every reason to draw comparison. The problem lies with the fact that y’all insist on framing this as exclusively a men’s issue, and that women are somehow to blame for having unrealistically high standards that you make up and project onto them.

Since we’re cherry-picking surveys, here are some for you: https://www.salon.com/2022/11/06/why-are-so-many-young-people-are-having-less-and-fewer-friendships/ https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n-keystat.htm https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/nearly-half-of-u-s-adults-say-dating-has-gotten-harder-for-most-people-in-the-last-10-years/

Indeed, there is no basis in reality that women have it easier. You can speculate that it’s a product of evolution but that at best only points to surface-level differences, while the overall negative experience that has come about from the commodification of dating affects both sexes.

Edit: Also, let’s say that it is men who are disproportionately affected, I find it interesting that the first reason you go to are all the things that men are commonly insecure about (height, penis size, etc.) despite those things not being the focus of the sources you provided later.

This is the main reason why I compared your post to incel talking points. Their whole tactic is playing off of the insecurities of men, making them feel bad about themselves, and framing it as the opinions of women despite no input from actual women being present. Which, unfortunately, is exactly what you were doing with your initial post, whether you’re aware of it or not.

here’s the original source from the artist’s own page: https://nitter.snopyta.org/bysau_/status/1490690760718565380

y’know, i really thought lemmy would be better than this but i guess it is just fucking reddit all over again.

this stupid “men have to be chad thundercock or die alone!!!1111 it’s so easy for women waahhhhh” shit is just a divisive incel talking point with no basis in reality. you literally just pulled numbers out of your ass too. the incel community is growing at an alarming rate because of all the talking heads on social media who purport this trash and people like you who mindlessly repeat it.

The reason is federation. People actually happen to be pretty good at holding each other accountable and self-regulating when there isn’t a central authority deciding what is and isn’t acceptable. Bad actors naturally gravitate toward the instances that welcome them, and then the rest of us defederate from those instances to maintain the peace. Those bad instances then stagnate or fizzle out from the inactivity.

On centralized social media, what stays and goes isn’t dictated by the community but a handful of people at the top, and troublemakers are often given a bigger platform than they would have had otherwise.

Mastadon is a lot bigger and older than Lemmy is, and yet it still has the same vibe as this place.