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  • Both are unacceptable but clearly Israel is more so. In a hostage situation, you don’t bomb the neighborhood. I’d also like to point out that nobody is really defending Hamas, which is more acceptable is missing the point entirely.

    Israel has serious military advantage, they can basically force a cease fire at any time. They aren’t under threat and tbh, probably let the events that started all this happen for causus belli.

    The article talks about a mostly symbolic UN vote that was vetoed by the US at the request of Israel. They don’t want a ceasefire, they don’t want their hostages back, they don’t want a solution.

    They just want to keep bombing.






  • What about burning crosses on someone’s lawn, or flying Nazi flags? Lmao, they could just not burn the damn book. Usually, people being dicks don’t have a army of people coming to their defence.

    Obviously you don’t care, you aren’t the one being personally attacked so you can just overlook it. But if this happened in a vaccum, you wouldn’t be defending the Nazi burning a Torah infront of a synagogue yet here we are.

    Look, I hate the policies in the middle east as well, but I’m able to differentiate between individuals and governments. This is Muslim hate and nothing else.


  • There would be a justified outcry if a Torah was burned in front of a synagogue. The instigators would quickly be villefied and called Nazis. At the minimum, no one would be actively defending it.

    It shouldn’t have to be against the law, but people are abusing to the point of starting riots. It’s disturbing the peace. I lump this in with following people and screaming racial slurs constantly at the top of your lungs. Freedom of speech only goes so far, I’m okay with banning clear hate speech and similar actions.


  • Because they are using it to incite violence and hate. I’m big on the fuck all religions bandwagon but burning a religious text in front of said religious group is just being a dick.

    We tell people they can’t do stuff with their property all the time, if it’s affecting their surroundings negatively as is clearly the case.

    It’s also always the same book that gets burned, there’s clearly a heavy undercurrent of xenophobia. You wouldn’t be asking this question if it was a Torah instead.






  • I’m pretty sure the article talks about what amounts to a warcrimes committed by the United States. The same United States that then spent the time between that warcrimes and now warmongering, funding death squads and drug barons, occupying countries to steal natural resources, etc.

    Completely relevant to the context. Yes, China’s bad and Russia is bad, but holy fuck so is the states. I’m not a tankie but I’m not some useless twit that guzzles my own countries propaganda just because it tastes sweet. If anyone has to disarm, it’s all three. Maybe we can pick a country that doesn’t have active torture sites to be the beacon of truth and hold all the nukes.

    Trying to claim whataboutism under a thread about Hiroshima, what a load of shit.