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  • Sure, but you have the logic backwards. Viability isnt used so that people can get an abortion even though the baby can survive, its so the physician can make the judgement to deliver a baby that can survive instead of attempting an abortion - when the mothers life is in danger.

    There is no magic cut off date, where all babies are ready to deliver or will die. So basically the math goes like this: physician determines the mother will die if the baby does not come out. If they determine the baby is viable --> the baby comes out and is alive via medical procedure (not abortion). If they determine that the baby is not viable --> the baby comes out and cannot survive via medical procedure (abortion). Fyi, in case you think oh well, keep the baby in: the mom dies, the baby is not viable to survive and dies too. Thats it. No one is aborting babies that could be birthed and survive.

    “Viability is reached when, in the judgment of the attending physician on the particular facts of the case before him, there is a reasonable likelihood of the fetus’ sustained survival outside the womb, with or without artificial support. Because this point may differ with each pregnancy, neither the legislature nor the courts may proclaim one of the elements entering into the ascertainment of viability – be it weeks of gestation or fetal weight or any other single factor – as the determinant of when the State has a compelling interest in the life or health of the fetus.” Colautti v. Franklin (1979)

    This is a different situation than early pregnancy abortions. Different areas of focus, rights, benefits, ethics etc. Dont treat both rights as requiring the same logic to support.

    It seems to me, at least, no matter what someones position is on early term terminations, late term is a slam dunk obvious answer. Leave the decision to the parents and their physicians, not lawyers and legislators.









  • Maybe youre not aware of what that means. Orphan crushing machine is relative to a situation and what at first what sounds like a heartwarming action, until you question why that action was needed in the first place.

    No focus on the good samaritan(s) here, rather it is sad that in this world you need a saviour to keep a foodbank afloat, and deeper, sadder still that foodbanks are needed in the first place.

    The orphan crushing machine - the heartless system. The criticism is on society having holes for people to fall through.

    The classic orphan crushing machine story is about that 6 year old that worked through summer to pay off his classmates lunch debt. The good samaritan, loved young boy. The orphan crushing machine, the school system that would cut off lunches for low income students that couldnt pay off their debt.