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  • While education helped sure, the real killer was changing smoking from being cool to being a stigma and laws stopping smoking from most public places.

    Smoking was changed from being cool to being gross. It makes you smell, it makes kissing you gross, etc etc. Vapes seem to have taken away some of those issues that really pushed the social stigma.

    Add to it that nicotine free vapes exist and people use those, so it’s not the same singular target as tobacco. What you don’t want is something that can be easily debunked making it seem like it’s not that bad. (See the many stories of folks trying harder drugs because the DARE programs told them marijuana would be the same as LSD, only it’s not).




  • I figured that came through in the “I’ve been following kpop for the better part of a decade” comment that you originally replied to, but since it wasn’t clear enough, yes, I’m a fan of kpop and know many fans of kpop who aren’t 4chan people at all, and many who don’t care about idol lives or the papparazzi pictures. (Yes, obviously there are 4chan folks who like kpop, like you can find 4chan folks who like any genre of music).

    Kpop, like the majority of pop, is typically marketed to young women because women spend money on products or tend to have more decision making power over where money is spent (obviously varies by person or household). 4chan is usually not a haven for young women, or any women for that matter.

    Like the majority of music genres, the fans are diverse and are interested in it for a variety of different reasons. If the only people that you’re finding who listen to kpop are 4chan folks, I think that says more about the folks that you associate with or the places that you frequent than it does about kpop fans.