Goddamn that was poetic, ya cunt.

I see nothing fnord unusual about it.

Thank you so much for this! It reminded me to revisit my library’s general resources and look specifically for which archive collections they had available. I’m 1 state over, so I figured there was a good chance we would have Newspapers.com Library Edition access here.

The main/default collection my library sent me to was no help, but they had a Newspapers.com Library Edition portal listed further down. Final-fucking-ly got it. I really, really appreciate the help.

I’m sure it’s a fine service, if you want to use it regularly, but I just wanted 1 tiny thing. If they had a $1 for an obit or a page deal, sure. Instead, there’s this whole microcosm of bullshit where some are archived, others available, some omitted from public collections, some on different 3rd party sites, etc.

The family paid for an obit. It wasn’t in the 1800s. The paper has been digitized. I should be able to go to the paper with the name, exact date, and city and find it. They literally say it doesn’t exist. Not that it’s on our archive site or our partner site, just nothing.

I would have thrown a couple bucks to any of the sites for access, but no, I need to sign up for a subscription, give them all my details, get spam calls for the next 100 years, just no. Super frustrating.

“Black Company” fighting the good fight, it seems.

Since the Snoopocalypse I’ve been using it MUCH more. I’m as surprised as anyone, but without Reddit, Google is complete hot garbage. I used to use Google 95% of the time and didn’t realize how many times I gave up and added “reddit” in the query. It’s unusable.

Out of principle, I’ve made SearXNG my default, but I don’t shun Bing at all now. I occasionally use DDG, but anything relatively technical just doesn’t come up much there.

Don’t worry about possibly not being the first person to post this thought. I had the same thought when I saw the headline and then thought the same thing as the last line before reading the body. Against my better judgement, I thought I wouldn’t be the first to post a comment on this, but I actually am! Nice to know there is a bottom of this hole.

They will still get site visit counts and other general metrics (page view time, clicks, etc.). When you see in a press release that they, “have X million daily page views,” that’s including everything from signed in users to anonymizing middle clients, like libreddit.

It’s the most minimal help for them possible, but not as good as just staying away. If you used to post regularly and scanning the front page twice per day will help you engage less, that’s much better than slipping back into old habits.

Very true. I would argue that for some people, it might be better to ween themselves off Reddit than stop cold turkey.

If they posted every day, stop posting, maybe reduce commenting, and take an extra 10 seconds to search out other sources of info.

If they commented every day, stop commenting, browse Reddit if you feel like it, but try to find an equivalent article here to comment on.

If they lurked, try finding new sources, try new search engines, etc. Did they lurk because they didn’t care about interacting, or because they were turned off by toxic responses in the past? Try commenting here.

I’d rather see people leave slowly and stay away, than go back to their old patterns because they think, “I just really NEED to check that one sub, so I guess protesting is not for me.”

Also, I don’t think there are many here that would fault those that actually need Reddit in some way (e.g.-Ukraine war, self help, support groups, etc.). They have bigger shit to worry about. Revisit the migration topic when you’re comfortable, and if you want.

(It’s worth mentioning that some of that material is starting to pop up around here. See if they fill your needs when it’s okay for you - no point in joining a group with 2 people if you really need a larger support system.)

Ironic, since lemmings don’t actually jump off cliffs. The people making the documentary (Disney) that’s famous from actually threw them over the cliff to make it interesting.

Golems (singular Lems)

Because…
If you part it to the Left, it’s Not Right.
If you part it to the Right, it’s Wrong.
Not Right = Wrong
So, Left must = Right.

How about “golems” - Lems that go/migrate/progress. Singular would be a “Lem”.

“I don’t mean to spez, but I don’t agree…” (I’m not trying to be an asshole, but…)

“Lemmy say…” (my opinion is…)

“And L’Emmy for best performance goes to…” (praise a good comment)

“Let me provide a cool glass of Lemmy-aid for you.” (I’m giving a friendly bit of unsolicited advice.)

“Quite the CaLemmyTea!” (A big disagreement or negative event (catastrophe) that ended in a surprisingly civil way (like over a good cup of tea.))

There were a bunch of initial shitlords that tried making roads into here a few weeks back, but they were quickly shouted down. A few defederations later and things have been smooth.

As for the Lemmy devs, there are some screenshots of nasty tankie comments floating around, but I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt for now because they have been very involved with keeping things civil and came out publicly against their past statements. I think a bunch of us effectively argued with one of them that letting that shit in during the initial growth in general public instances was a platform-killer (lots of mentions of the “Tolerance of Intolerance Paradox” and the “nazi bar story”). A T_D popped up for an hour or two and was quickly pushed out. They can make their own little microcosm somewhere else.

I’ve seen a few douchebags pop up here and there, but not enough to worry me. Though, I hear the politics mags might have more trouble than the comment threads I frequent.

You didn’t have to say you’re new - the fact that you thought you could get banned for that post screams it! That’s the good ole Reddit PTSD. Folks are more chill and friendly here. Also, maybe 5 people fully understand the system, so we’re all learning.

One little bug that I think makes this whole situation more confusing is that not interacting with a thread for long enough (opening several tabs, walking away while ready comments, etc.), your browser could stop updating the state of the page. When you go to subscribe or comment or vote, you get hit with one of two errors. I had assumed that was part of this whole who-can-talk-to-who fediverse confusion. It’s not. It’s just a bug you can get around by refreshing the page.

As for combining posts, that’s something in the works, but there’s no karma and most people I’ve come across don’t give two shits about the various bugged equivalents. If you’re going to submit a post, check to see if it’s already already being talked about on another instance. There’s no etiquette for how to handle that yet, so I think it might make sense to just post a link to the federated post that that people in that subscribed magazine/community get directed to the larger discussion. Or maybe do this and say you want to talk about some specific aspect more.

And yes, there’s lots under construction here, but nobody was prepared for this deluge. Seriously, from ~3,500 users between kbin and lemmy to ~2 million now. We know that the devs are hard at work, so it isn’t like it’s an abandoned project. But, I’ll take this community over Reddit’s any day.

Correct. Also, in Lemmy “magazines” are “communities”.

It might be worth noting that the platform is stable, but still growing. Expect little quirks; we’re dealing with a big influx of new users.

For example, I joined during the first big wave of signups and the servers were having trouble keeping up with the sudden spike in activity (10 to 1000x+ new posts/users/instances). I would sometimes see federated content, sometimes not. After 12 hours and a massive effort by the devs, everything became MUCH more stable.

There will be bugs, but they are actively being squashed at breakneck speed.

For example, one that I encounter regularly is leaving a thread open in a background tab too long (on Firefox) eventually stops syncing with the server. When I eventually get to that tab, the data is old and attempting to interact (click arrows, reply, subscribe, etc.) send me to an error page. The fix? Refresh the page if was open more that 30 minutes ago. It’s a minor bug that will eventually be fixed, so give it time.

I also wanted to throw some advice out there, in case it’s useful…

If they’re ever confused, there are plenty of support communities/magazines. First, check if others have posted about the same problem. If they haven’t, feel free to ask. The NoStupidQuestions community hosts a ton of simple Fediverse-related questions posted by users, and it has some of the highest engagement on the platform. I know the reluctance of posting may have been ground into you by Reddit, but (a) this isn’t Reddit, and (b) we’re all new here.

There is a slight learning curve, so canoodle around a bit to get a feel for this new Reddit-esque multiverse. Read a few FAQs, skim the support communities, follow a few rabbit holes.

Here’s what I suspect is a semi-normal new user experience (because it was mine :) ):

• To start, you’ll want to register an account, so you do. You’ll click a few stories, try to comment, and find you’re not logged in and can’t log in. You’ll notice you’re not on the original server. Do you have to register a million accounts? That makes no sense! The answer is no.

• Next, you’ll want to understand why. That post you clicked took you to another instance (think of them as servers). So, how do you post a comment on another instance? Ah, from your home instance. So, did it matter where I registered? Yes and no, but mostly no.

• • Keep going down the account rabbit hole and you’ll read about the pros and cons of running your own instance, how federation/defederation works, and other instance-related topics,
• • Or, hop back out and proceed to comment on the post you read. Wait. My comment has no votes. The path forks again.
• • • Is there something like Reddit’s karma system? Down the voting/rep rabbit hole!
• • • Is it considered bad form to vote for my own comment/post? (There’s no consensus right now, so don’t worry.) Down the Lemmy/Kbin etiquette rabbit hole!

You’ll eventually go back to hit on those forks in the path you didn’t take. Follow whichever path suits you best and expand from there.

Correct.