Old article updated with peer review today.

  • TokenBoomer@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Please be hookers…

    “Counter to really harmful stereotypes, we saw that people made wise financial choices,” Claire Williams, the CEO of Foundations for Social Change, told me.

    Well look at that.

    • hoshikarakitaridia@sh.itjust.works
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      10 months ago

      It’s nice to have a study to shove in someone’s face when they talk about homeless people as if they were all absolute addicts.

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        10 months ago

        There’s no shortage of those and they’ve never made a difference in these arguments. These people are just ugly and believe they are better than someone else and there’s nothing you can do about it.

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      10 months ago

      If you give someone $20, chances are that, yeah, they will spend it on some quick and cheap comfort to improve their lives in the short term (fast food, alcohol, drugs, etc.). But if you give someone a sizeable sum that will actually help them plan for a better future, the vast majority of people will do just that.

      But that really goes against the whole “poverty is the result of a moral failing” concept that capitalist throught had been hammering into our heads for decades, so we certainly can’t be promoting that fact.

  • bobman@unilem.org
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    10 months ago

    Hm. Let’s take the money from the people who put them in that situation and redistribute it to those who need it.

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    10 months ago

    @TokenBoomer
    @hoshikarakitaridia
    unfortunately the study was rigged, if you read it you see the research people made being accepted for the money for selected people. This included no drugs, only within 2 years, 200 people only, not part with street culture of that area, etc. This is not good research, this is falsely research.

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      10 months ago

      That’s not been rigged. It’s called to have a method. You need that for a study. You can disagree with their method, but doesn’t mean it is “rigged”.

    • Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip
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      10 months ago

      I don’t know what you’ve been smoking but no.

      Did you catch the part in the article where the amount of money handed out in total was gained back (with dividends) in the difference between state aid required for the people being homeless versus housed? Of course you didn’t, because you have a narrative in mind already.

      Government Aid almost always comes with stipulations, that’s not new, and it’s not to be frowned upon. If my taxpayer money is going to help people I would like to ensure there’s some guardrails in place as well. Desperate people will do anything for money and we need reasonable assurances that person chosen to participate in such programs, are ready to commit to changing life for the better.

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        10 months ago

        you didn’t read the real study, they were looking for people in shelters not people who are outside the streets. Your claim is false, as the government does need to intervene as the study is from Canada. Your american money was never spent in the first place.

        Don’t trust newspapers that hide facts.

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          10 months ago

          why does the source of the less than fortunate person matter? The fact is, shelters have rules, and a program like this is definitely better off having culled the selection pool down to persons who have already demonstrated willingness to follow basic rules in atn attempt to reintegrate.

          I think you depend on newspapers too much for facts.