Damn, full support for a genocide that is unpopular with their own electorate, and this is the thanks they get? If you’re willing to lose due to principles, at least make them good principles.
Out in the real world, Hamas committed genocide on October 7. Israel is in Gaza in an attempt to destroy Hamas and free the hostages that were taken on that day.
“Genocide Joe” is just a meme spread by internet cranks that’s a very tiny minority of voters, insignificant compared to the number of voters that know the difference between a war and a genocide.
Hamas committed genocide on October 7. They should be destroyed for that crime. You’re pro-genocide because you want Hamas given a pass for their genocide.
Hamas official, Hamad Al-Regeb in an April 2023 sermon: He prayed for “annihilation” and “paralysis” of the Jews whom he described as filthy animals: “[Allah] transformed them into filthy, ugly animals like apes and pigs because of the injustice and evil they had brought about.” Al-Regeb also prayed for the ability to “get to the necks of the Jews.”
Hamas member, Ghazi Hamad on October 24, 2023: “Israel is a country that has no place on our land […] because it constitutes a security, military, and political catastrophe to the Arab and Islamic nation.” (October 24, 2023, LBC TV (Lebanon)). He also vowed to repeat the October 7 attacks “time and again until Israel is annihilated,” and expressing a desire to “sacrifice martyrs” (referring to Gazan civilians) for Hamas’ ideological aim of destroying Israel.
Hamas senior leader Khaled Mashal stated on October 19, 2023 that he views the current loss of civilian life in Gaza – brought about by Hamas’ strategy of using human shields – as essential: “No nation is liberated without sacrifices… In all wars, there are some civilian victims. We are not responsible for them.”
Hamas senior leader Ismail Haniyeh, commenting on the loss of civilian life in Gaza on October 26, 2023: “The blood of the women, children and elderly […] we are the ones who need this blood, so it awakens within us the revolutionary spirit.”
It’s not genocide, it’s ethnic cleansing/stealing land. If all the Palestinians left for some place else, Israel would not pursue them to exterminate them, they’d just steal their land. It’s Palestinian land that Israel is stealing. The Palestinians are just in the way.
The Palestinians are not an ethnic group. They are people who live in Palestine, and are from many ethnicities and religious professions. They are being murdered because of where they live, not technically because of their ethnicity. If they all left of their own accord, Israel would not pursue them to murder them. Israel is murdering them to steal their land. Hence not genocide.
Did you really just say that if the indigenous inhabitants simply left their homes and wandered into the desert, then Israel wouldn’t be forced to commit a genocide?
What the fuck are you talking about? Where did I even touch on “Forced to commit genocide”? So shut the fuck up. The Israeli’s are choosing to do this. The Israeli intent is to chase non-Jews out of the land they want to steal. Israel is committing a different crime against humanity other than genocide. The Israelis are choosing to commit ethnic cleansing. The ethnicity of the people in Gaza who aren’t Jewish doesn’t matter to the Israelis. They just want them gone, chased out or murdered, no matter what their ethnicity or faith if they aren’t Jewish. It doesn’t make any difference to Bibi. And as long as that’s what Israel is doing, those who supply the means to Israel need to stop providing those means.
Genocide is violence that targets individuals because of their membership of a group and aims at the destruction of a people.[a][2]
Dictionary
the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.
Cambridge dictionary
genocide
noun [ C or U ]
UK /ˈdʒen.ə.saɪd/ US /ˈdʒen.ə.saɪd/
Add to word list
the crime of intentionally destroying part or all of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group, by killing people or by other methods:
By what rationale do you group people who live in Palestine together as a particular group- because they aren’t. Israel wants Gaza, and they want everyone there who’s not an Israeli gone. Either chased out or murdered. It’s not like the extermination of certain Native peoples carried out by the US government in the 1800’s where they were obliterated for what they were.
Damn, full support for a genocide that is unpopular with their own electorate, and this is the thanks they get? If you’re willing to lose due to principles, at least make them good principles.
Out in the real world, Hamas committed genocide on October 7. Israel is in Gaza in an attempt to destroy Hamas and free the hostages that were taken on that day.
“Genocide Joe” is just a meme spread by internet cranks that’s a very tiny minority of voters, insignificant compared to the number of voters that know the difference between a war and a genocide.
Damn this guy is pro-genocide wtf
Hamas committed genocide on October 7. They should be destroyed for that crime. You’re pro-genocide because you want Hamas given a pass for their genocide.
what’s it like having other people chew your food for you
Who’s chewing for who now
Hamas official, Hamad Al-Regeb in an April 2023 sermon: He prayed for “annihilation” and “paralysis” of the Jews whom he described as filthy animals: “[Allah] transformed them into filthy, ugly animals like apes and pigs because of the injustice and evil they had brought about.” Al-Regeb also prayed for the ability to “get to the necks of the Jews.”
Hamas member, Ghazi Hamad on October 24, 2023: “Israel is a country that has no place on our land […] because it constitutes a security, military, and political catastrophe to the Arab and Islamic nation.” (October 24, 2023, LBC TV (Lebanon)). He also vowed to repeat the October 7 attacks “time and again until Israel is annihilated,” and expressing a desire to “sacrifice martyrs” (referring to Gazan civilians) for Hamas’ ideological aim of destroying Israel.
Hamas senior leader Khaled Mashal stated on October 19, 2023 that he views the current loss of civilian life in Gaza – brought about by Hamas’ strategy of using human shields – as essential: “No nation is liberated without sacrifices… In all wars, there are some civilian victims. We are not responsible for them.” Hamas senior leader Ismail Haniyeh, commenting on the loss of civilian life in Gaza on October 26, 2023: “The blood of the women, children and elderly […] we are the ones who need this blood, so it awakens within us the revolutionary spirit.”
imagine putting so much effort into being wrong when that effort could go to learning
It’s not genocide, it’s ethnic cleansing/stealing land. If all the Palestinians left for some place else, Israel would not pursue them to exterminate them, they’d just steal their land. It’s Palestinian land that Israel is stealing. The Palestinians are just in the way.
You just described a genocide, like one of the plain text definitions of a genocide. Mass murdering a group of people to steal their land.
Doesn’t matter that you’ve made up a hypothetical fantasy scenario where they aren’t caged in cornered, but have free movement, it’s still a genocide.
Oh, and they aren’t free to leave, they are caged and cornered.
So you’re wrong, and you’re wrong again.
The Palestinians are not an ethnic group. They are people who live in Palestine, and are from many ethnicities and religious professions. They are being murdered because of where they live, not technically because of their ethnicity. If they all left of their own accord, Israel would not pursue them to murder them. Israel is murdering them to steal their land. Hence not genocide.
Did you really just say that if the indigenous inhabitants simply left their homes and wandered into the desert, then Israel wouldn’t be forced to commit a genocide?
What the fuck are you talking about? Where did I even touch on “Forced to commit genocide”? So shut the fuck up. The Israeli’s are choosing to do this. The Israeli intent is to chase non-Jews out of the land they want to steal. Israel is committing a different crime against humanity other than genocide. The Israelis are choosing to commit ethnic cleansing. The ethnicity of the people in Gaza who aren’t Jewish doesn’t matter to the Israelis. They just want them gone, chased out or murdered, no matter what their ethnicity or faith if they aren’t Jewish. It doesn’t make any difference to Bibi. And as long as that’s what Israel is doing, those who supply the means to Israel need to stop providing those means.
By what definition
Wiki
Genocide is violence that targets individuals because of their membership of a group and aims at the destruction of a people.[a][2]
Dictionary
the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.
Cambridge dictionary
genocide noun [ C or U ] UK /ˈdʒen.ə.saɪd/ US /ˈdʒen.ə.saɪd/ Add to word list the crime of intentionally destroying part or all of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group, by killing people or by other methods:
So by what definition do you add ‘land’.
By what rationale do you group people who live in Palestine together as a particular group- because they aren’t. Israel wants Gaza, and they want everyone there who’s not an Israeli gone. Either chased out or murdered. It’s not like the extermination of certain Native peoples carried out by the US government in the 1800’s where they were obliterated for what they were.
what’s the point of this argument even if you’re right? fuck what Israel is actually doing, I don’t care what it’s called. Fuck them