Sorry for two new pinned posts within the span of 24 hours. after coming back I figured some of the rules needed some updating, and it is policy to put any rule change up to vote for the members.

The two changes I currently would like to make, is increased enforcement of the moldy posting rule, and a new rule banning AI generated content.

moldy posting is when you post a meme that you would find on your aunt’s Facebook page or Elon musk’s Twitter account. I’m talking properly old, moldy, watermarked, painfully irrelevant posts. I think we should remove them simply because they kind of suck, and removing them would raise the level of quality of 196.

I believe we should ban AI generated content because it is exploitative by nature, and I don’t think we should be feeding it.

please discuss in the comments, and vote on whether or not you think these changes should be made. vote on each change separately. if there are any other rule changes that you would like to suggest, now is the time.

  • Korne127@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    I disagree with the rule banning AI content. Especially the dumb original imgflip AI can just generate super funny dumb captions to classical meme templates, and there is no harm in doing this (you cannot even decide with 100% certainty whether a human or an AI has generated it).
    I also used to generate dumb nonsense jokes with the early open source LLMs (long before ChatGPT got released).

    I think saying AI content is exploitative in nature is a bit short-sighted and just generalizing about all the different types of AI. If I, e.g. program my own AI to e.g. play a game, and make a meme about that, that’s not exploitative. Imitating people’s art without their consent is something different though.

    I think it would be good to revisit this rule and maybe specify what exact content are not allowed or think about this, since generally there can be good AI meme content (also on a meta-layer, e.g. about people who take obvious fake AI pictures as something real) and just outright banning all of them is a bad idea in my opinion.

  • Janet@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    5 months ago

    i have no aunt and i dont follow the loner, i am (not really) looking forward to learn what moldy memes are…

    oh and fuck ai from the orbit, it’s the only way to be sure.

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    6 months ago

    Moldyposts were fun ironically, but i’m fine moving past them. I’m also on board with giving toaster generated posts the boot. Also, this comment counts as my post before i leave, see you all next sticky

  • Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    6 months ago

    I’m in favor of the anti AI rule but against the anti moldy posts rule

    Also, could you remove that image from the post, I almost reported the post for “unflagged NSFW” because of it

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      6 months ago

      Agreed on removing the image. I upvoted because I thought it was a regular post and not a rule change

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        6 months ago

        I only visited this post because of the image & now I’m performing cunnilingus on a bowl of Mac & Cheese.

        Please remove the image.

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      6 months ago

      gormadt I would like to remind you of our NSFW rules. skimpy clothing is not considered NSFW, and neither are breasts. maybe if it was just the woman on the left, it would count as softcore porn, but in the context of my macaroni is a lesbian by Chuck tingle it is obviously more funny than “sexy”

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    6 months ago

    I am in favor of both of these changes. I always feel lowkey like ive been tricked when i realize im looking at AI art, and the moldy posts just feel like mud to slog through sometimes.

  • flamingos-cant@ukfli.uk
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    6 months ago

    Maybe instead of banning mouldy memes, there could be restrictions for when they can be posted. Mouldy Monday or something.

  • kingthrillgore@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    Most of my contributions are moldy memes so obviously I don’t agree with this rule. This would impact the already little effort I put into my posts. And I know effort isn’t something we put into 196 but that’s my observation. I’m willing to revisit this later.

    I support banning AI memes because those require less than zero effort already.

  • Mario_Dies.wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 months ago

    I’ve Chuck Tingle posted in the past, so I was concerned that this was going to be an anti-Tingle policy, but fortunately it seems like it’s about other things