Paradox of tolerance at work here. The Fascist’s broke the social contract of tolerance, therefore we should not tolerate them…
A fascist salute is inherently a risk to public order.
No it’s not, and bad faith arguments like these are why what’s upvoted on forums isn’t indicative of the real world.
If you think about it, making the fascist salute illegal is inherently more fascist than the salute itself. The salute is a symbol of one particular regime, regulating political speech on the other hand…
I totally agree.
It’s an ideology that calls for the extermination of those deemed “undesirable”. It’s very existence is a “risk to public order”
Do you hear that whistling? That’s the sound of incoming fascism.
a fascist salute intended to indicate fascism is not a dog whistle
I was thinking the whistle of an incoming cartoon bomb a la looney tunes.
I hate it so much how the article calls it “the Roman salute”. ROMANS NEVER ACTUALLY USED THAT SALUTE. Romans using it is most likely just something that people made up in 18th century France. IT’S. NOT. ROMAN.
Why are they saying it is, then?
Not sure why you got down voted for asking an honest question.
There was a single influential painting from the 1800’s depicting three Romans doing the gesture. This lodged in the minds of some people in the early 20th century as the way ancient Romans saluted despite the fact that there wasn’t any historical evidence for this, just a painting portraying it.
The situation was a bit like the whole “people eat X number of spiders in their sleep” thing where an innocent falsehood spread like wildfire and was accepted as fact. The idea that Romans saluted that way is still floating around and would probably be more prevalent if the Nazis hadn’t adopted the gesture.
Thanks for the explanation.
No problem!
Because fascists lie.
Like, it’s an ideological tenet to lie about whatever you need to to achieve your goals.
Fascist salute never a risk to public order
- Italy, 2027Fascist salute now required to maintain public order
- Italy, 2030Italy’s such a shit country.
Because they never got punished for what they did in world war 2
This happened during a historical commemorative event (for an episode happened in the 70s where some people who belonged to a far right group were killed and the perpetrators were never processed) which happens every year and nobody ever cared about it. Suddenly I’m 2024 everyone is pointing fingers.
Italy is what it is, everyone here who feels superior and judge should look at their own country: all Europe (East and West, South and North) is leaning towards the far right except Spain, so don’t feel so superior. Even not agreeing with any f#scist regime, being told that we are a “sh#t country” or other things written in the comments here is not pleasant at all.
Germany has a far right party which gets 30% in some states. However even in that party we dont have a granddaughter of Hitler.
so don’t feel so superior
The irony of a European saying that
Just by our fingertips, the Gov. is a minority coalition with the far right being a majority.
I hope this is the end of the grounds they have made up and we can shift back to the left, but man…uuuuugh
Agree… but some innovation is needed in the opposition because the current left wing parties in Italy have betrayed their electoral basis quite a few times in the past and people (workers, middle class, the majority of the population in practice, except high bourgeoisie and the ultra-rich) don’t feel represented any more.