Oh dear. One lesson the houthi and these guys are about to learn, is that you do not mess with international trade. You can interrupt and disrupt the lives of the plebiscite as much as you like, but international trade is sacrosanct.
Fuck the market. These people are heroes.
What do you think about collective punishment?
You’ll need to be more specific, I’m not sure what you’re asking.
Do you think it’s fine for these people to try to punish every major company in the entire UK for something only a handful of companies are doing? This is an example of collective punishment.
Well, I think the stock market should be abolished entirely.
Interesting. In that case, well, two things:
- Why should the stock market be abolished? and
- Are there any good companies using the stock market? Some of these companies might actually agree with you that the stock market should be abolished, but are stuck with the system that is available to them. How should these companies cope with a sudden unannounced unplanned total stock market shutdown?
No company had to go public. It’s just legalized gambling, but with dire impact on global economies.
I don’t have the answers to all of your questions, but that doesn’t mean I’m wrong.
And I’m sure plenty of companies have regretted going public, and now, they’re stuck with it.
It doesn’t mean you’re wrong, but it does change the way you fight it, Tson Feir. Innocent companies are trapped in the system you are trying to free them from, and you are opting for the financial equivalent of an Israeli air strike. For somebody who doesn’t want a dire impact on global economies, you sure seem to condone actions that will have a dire impact on global economies.
The stock market is not totally random. The value of stock is tied to the value of companies decently well, Gamestop-style fucketry notwithstanding.
My main problem with the stock market isn’t that it doesn’t work, or it’s too random. It is working as intended. The problem with it is that it allows control over a company to be bought and sold without the consent of the company’s employees. It is not slavery, because the employees can look for a job at another company if they don’t like the new owners. But, like, it’s also not not slavery. Disreputable people with, in their opinion, not enough money (cough cough Twitter), can sell their workers to other disreputable people with too much money (cough cough Musk). This is capitalism—its very definition. And it’s becoming a real problem.
Sensible countries have already begun putting the brakes on this madness. I believe Germany requires all companies above a certain size to be 40% owned by its employees, and other European countries have similar rules. I think that is a very good compromise. And nobody has to cyanoacrylate themselves to a stock market in order for this to happen.