• lildictator@feddit.nl
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    1 year ago

    How about we place a safe route for uncontrolled immigrantion right around where you live? See the problem now?

    • Aurelian@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      I’m a South African who has used every ounce of privilege I could to escape to the Netherlands.

      100% I don’t deserve it I have so many friends back in South Africa, some who have doctorates that would be way more deserving than me.

      I am only here due to being privvilaged enough that I could run away while affording all the complications that come from immigrating.

      Where I come from we have a ton of uncontrolled immigration, it’s only dangerous is you don’t look after the desperate people who need help and especially dangerous when you try isolate them.

      When your neighbour is suffering it doesn’t matter how big your wall if you will suffer along with them.

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        1 year ago

        I really doubt that PhDs have any trouble immigrating legally to any developed country using the existing channels. I did it years ago with just a University degree and some work experience.

        What I’m absolutely opposed to is uncontrolled immigration where anybody who feels like it comes to my country. In the same way that I don’t let strangers come to my home without my permission.

        When my neighbor is suffering, I address that problem through means other than inviting them to my bedroom.

      • Aurelian@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        Exactly what I’m saying.

        The best thing is most developed countries are suffering from an aging population, they actually need the immigrants, without them long term the country has a downward spiral coming.

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          1 year ago

          Yeah, nah mate. We’ll just get robots to wipe our asses as we go full Wall-E while the rest of the world burns.

        • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          Maybe they should die. Really, think about it. The rich countries do everything they can to rest on their previous accomplishments and cut off any future growth. Regardless of what it does to their own young. Spoiled rotten, unable to do anything except teardown what they can’t build.

          If westerns can’t fuck to save themselves from extinction and can’t even stand the idea that they might meet someone of a slightly different background then let them die off.

          Don’t forget we are all going to be millionaires selling each other Bitcoin.

        • lildictator@feddit.nl
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          1 year ago

          There is a huge difference between uncontrolled immigration, where anybody who wants to get in does, and controlled immigration where the host country decides who gets in and under what conditions.

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      1 year ago

      Go right ahead. My area is full of old people living in plastic McMansions, driving trucks they don’t need, eating at franchise places that serve microwaved crap. I would love to see the types of communities and commerence here as I did in southeast Asia.

      • lildictator@feddit.nl
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        1 year ago

        I want to let people in who will contribute to our social system more than they take from it. This is achieved through a selective process, not by opening the doors to whoever wants to live here. That simple.

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          1 year ago

          I mean convenient for you after we got everything from them without giving anything back.

          Now we sit on their stuff being like “you can come,you can’t” based on out made up definition of useful? XD pretty fucking convenient

          • lildictator@feddit.nl
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            1 year ago

            I am an immigrant myself. I followed the law. I did everything I was asked to do. Excuse me if I’m indignant at the idea of other people getting in illegally after all the effort and years it took me.

            “How fucking convenient”.

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              1 year ago

              It doesn’t mean shit. You had the means clearly. Other people don’t.

              • lildictator@feddit.nl
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                1 year ago

                “How fucking convenient” that they think the laws don’t apply to them.

                “How fucking convenient” they get to pick and choose which country to live in, instead of the other way around.

                “How fucking convenient” that you move the goalposts as you are proven wrong.