Hundreds of pro-Palestinian activists gathered in the main hall of Amsterdam Central Station at rush hour on Nov. 7 for a sit-in protest and called for a ceasefire in the besieged Gaza Strip.
You should also be happy you are not unfortunate to live either in Gaza or West Bank too. Because if you were I am sure you would have looked at this from a different angle.
or people would also spend more time protesting Hamas.
So there are three problems with this:
1-Hamas is a response to Israeli occupation, not an independent phenomenon. You can’t stop them without taking out the root cause.
2-What, exactly, would protesting Hamas even accomplish? Protesting Israel is basically telling your government to put pressure on Israel to stop its genocide of Gaza. You can’t put pressure on Hamas since they’re already cut off from almost the whole world.
3-The assumption that the existence or non-existence of Hamas has any effect on Israeli treatment of Palestinians is very naive.
The assumption that the existence or non-existence of Hamas has any effect on Israeli treatment of Palestinians is very naive.
The blockade didn’t happen until Hamas was elected, the treatment of Gaza was obviously different before Hamas launched this attack. It is plainly obvious that Hamas had an effect on Israeli treatment of Palestinians, especially ones under their government.
No you’re mixing it up. It transitioned immediately from occupation to siege and that’s part of what let Hamas get a plurality (not a majority) of the vote.
Not to mention they set up settlements in the West Bank to this day.
forming a protest march in a city thousands of miles away from the theater of war isnt going to change anything either - if it did, the huge protests in London, etc would have done something.
Protests themselves don’t do much, but Western governments are Israel’s biggest backers so Westerners working to change their policy on Israel does matter.
You fucks are all about freedom until it inconveniences you. Then you start talking about protests like they’re terrorists. It’s always the same bullshit cherry-picked stories about ambulances too.
I mean if they want to get government to do something… Storm actual government and protest there. These were weak and "safe’ protest alternatives that don’t actually help a cause and actively turns many people against it.
If you feel your government is not responding well the message should be made to government. Not your fellow citizen trying to get to work or in this case visit sick family.
Causing disruption is the point, you call your leaders to put further pressure on them to help resolve an act of genocide( in the instance). I have experienced protesters outside my house for a year(I used to live downtown in a major city) and I was always happy to see the masses standing up injustice when I had no idea of the issue. It’s informative and good to know people still have compassion.
If you life is shittier because of a mild inconvenience then you should re evaluate some things friend. I hope you see the light
So happy I do not live in a big city right now. So annoying to be blocked by these people when trying to get anywhere.
You should also be happy you are not unfortunate to live either in Gaza or West Bank too. Because if you were I am sure you would have looked at this from a different angle.
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So there are three problems with this:
1-Hamas is a response to Israeli occupation, not an independent phenomenon. You can’t stop them without taking out the root cause.
2-What, exactly, would protesting Hamas even accomplish? Protesting Israel is basically telling your government to put pressure on Israel to stop its genocide of Gaza. You can’t put pressure on Hamas since they’re already cut off from almost the whole world.
3-The assumption that the existence or non-existence of Hamas has any effect on Israeli treatment of Palestinians is very naive.
The blockade didn’t happen until Hamas was elected, the treatment of Gaza was obviously different before Hamas launched this attack. It is plainly obvious that Hamas had an effect on Israeli treatment of Palestinians, especially ones under their government.
It was an occupation before it became a blockade just in case you weren’t aware.
Right. Israel unilaterally left and disbanded all settlements in Gaza, then Gaza elected Hamas, then blockade.
No you’re mixing it up. It transitioned immediately from occupation to siege and that’s part of what let Hamas get a plurality (not a majority) of the vote.
Not to mention they set up settlements in the West Bank to this day.
Uh… No. After the disengagement they immediately (three months before the voting) blockaded Gaza.
I mean there are a ton of bad stuff happening many places. Don’t understand why I should care so much about this one.
Because if no one cares about those things they won’t change.
forming a protest march in a city thousands of miles away from the theater of war isnt going to change anything either - if it did, the huge protests in London, etc would have done something.
So let’s sit and watch how thousands of innocent lives are destroyed? Is this your solution? Or what solution do you suggest?
Protests themselves don’t do much, but Western governments are Israel’s biggest backers so Westerners working to change their policy on Israel does matter.
but the Biden administration is firmly behind Israel…
Reporting would suggest this is not the case.
Biden administration staff sign open letter demanding cease-fire in Israel-Hamas war
lol that’s the point. Complain to your local “leader” that their actions (or lack of) are causing you discomfort
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Hurry is just what the elite wants you to feel. Stop blaming those who do what needs to be done
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Fascists getting upvotes on lemmy, lmao.
You fucks are all about freedom until it inconveniences you. Then you start talking about protests like they’re terrorists. It’s always the same bullshit cherry-picked stories about ambulances too.
So fucking predictable.
I mean if they want to get government to do something… Storm actual government and protest there. These were weak and "safe’ protest alternatives that don’t actually help a cause and actively turns many people against it.
If you feel your government is not responding well the message should be made to government. Not your fellow citizen trying to get to work or in this case visit sick family.
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lol holding hostages, get over yourself!
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The story doesn’t tell why they left late in a hurry. Was it because the elite making them work to make a fat cat richer?
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Causing disruption is the point, you call your leaders to put further pressure on them to help resolve an act of genocide( in the instance). I have experienced protesters outside my house for a year(I used to live downtown in a major city) and I was always happy to see the masses standing up injustice when I had no idea of the issue. It’s informative and good to know people still have compassion.
If you life is shittier because of a mild inconvenience then you should re evaluate some things friend. I hope you see the light
It’s a sign that you can’t continue living your life just the way you do. It’s a wake-up call, you dipshit.
Are blindly fired missiles next?
I absolutely can though? Looking forward to the next news cycle as this is getting kinda boring.