Crimes of greed and poverty make up the vast majority of crimes though. And hierarchical systems do a shitty job of preventing those crimes anyway (since they focus on individual punishment rather than communal restoration of justice).
I state that there are leftist who try to claim all crime is of type X. It is blatantly obvious to everyone, except apparently leftist, that crime is not all of type X. You come in and say “yeah, but bro most is type X.”
You can’t leave it alone. This isn’t a position you need to defend. Holy shit. That’s not even the worst of it… The biggest problem is that most things of type X that are the worst for society aren’t even crimes in most countries and yet you Lazer focus on the wording like it’s a magic enchantment.
Totally missing the forest for the trees.
The irony, is that on a post I made about lemmy leftist making bad arguments about crime, you replied with a leftist position and a bad argument about crime. I can’t make this up.
So, what is in your opinion the major reasonS for people committing crime? Or do you think it is evenly distributed, so you can’t properly study that stuff.
And how would you personally prevent crime?
It is the easiest thing in the world to defend the status quo by pointig out that alternatives haven’t been formulated to the most minute detail.
They won’t because they can’t. How to deal with people who aren’t nice is one of the biggest flaws in anarchist theory. Because there is no way to see whether their theory of “people will all turn into nice humans without a state” is actually true.
It’s basically an axiom of their ideology and some anarchists straight out reject all psychological or sociological theories that suggest humans aren’t naturally good.
In my experience most anarchists either just live with the fact that violence has to be accepted (I would put Stirner into that group, for example).
Or they believe in vigilante justice. So neighbours watching and judging each other. Which only works - again - if you believe the absolute majority of people will not seek to exploit or overpower each other.
Crimes of greed and poverty make up the vast majority of crimes though. And hierarchical systems do a shitty job of preventing those crimes anyway (since they focus on individual punishment rather than communal restoration of justice).
How do you not see the irony here?
Can you explain it to me? Genuine question.
I state that there are leftist who try to claim all crime is of type X. It is blatantly obvious to everyone, except apparently leftist, that crime is not all of type X. You come in and say “yeah, but bro most is type X.”
You can’t leave it alone. This isn’t a position you need to defend. Holy shit. That’s not even the worst of it… The biggest problem is that most things of type X that are the worst for society aren’t even crimes in most countries and yet you Lazer focus on the wording like it’s a magic enchantment.
Totally missing the forest for the trees.
The irony, is that on a post I made about lemmy leftist making bad arguments about crime, you replied with a leftist position and a bad argument about crime. I can’t make this up.
So, what is in your opinion the major reasonS for people committing crime? Or do you think it is evenly distributed, so you can’t properly study that stuff.
And how would you personally prevent crime?
It is the easiest thing in the world to defend the status quo by pointig out that alternatives haven’t been formulated to the most minute detail.
🤣
Forrest for the trees.
Instead of being rude, you could just - you know - engage a bit here? Or are you jpst here to dunk on people’s beliefs?
Hardly. To either. You are the one who injected themselves into the conversation here.
I’m sorry that I was engaging with a conversation that didn’t include you and you had to come tell me how I was wrong.
Welcome to Lemmy, I guess? 🤷
Don’t bring up German idioms to him, it’s a touchy subject for him.
Aww, now you’re trying to own me by digging up old comments? You’re adorable! ^^
They won’t because they can’t. How to deal with people who aren’t nice is one of the biggest flaws in anarchist theory. Because there is no way to see whether their theory of “people will all turn into nice humans without a state” is actually true.
It’s basically an axiom of their ideology and some anarchists straight out reject all psychological or sociological theories that suggest humans aren’t naturally good.
In my experience most anarchists either just live with the fact that violence has to be accepted (I would put Stirner into that group, for example).
Or they believe in vigilante justice. So neighbours watching and judging each other. Which only works - again - if you believe the absolute majority of people will not seek to exploit or overpower each other.