The U.S. military is moving an aircraft carrier strike group and military aircraft closer to Israel as a show of support, and will also begin supplying Israel with munitions and other military supplies immediately, said Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin.
Austin said Sunday afternoon that he had directed the USS Gerald R. Ford Carrier Strike Group to go to the Eastern Mediterranean. The group includes the carrier, a Ticonderoga-class guided missile cruiser, and four Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyers. “We have also taken steps to augment U.S Air Force F-35, F-15, F-16, and A-10 fighter aircraft squadrons in the region,” he said. “In addition, the United States government will be rapidly providing the Israel Defense Forces with additional equipment and resources, including munitions. The first security assistance will begin moving today and arriving in the coming days."
“Strengthening our joint force posture, in addition to the materiel support that we will rapidly provide to Israel, underscores the United States’ ironclad support for the Israel Defense Forces and the Israeli people,” said Austin. “My team and I will continue to be in close contact with our Israeli counterparts to ensure they have what they need to protect their citizens and defend themselves against these heinous terrorist attacks.”
Israel has its own military industry that is very advanced and substantial, shaped by their forever war, so I’m sure they can get by without US support for far longer than Ukraine currently can.
It’s ok, americans don’t have healthcare so they can afford to wage wars all over the place
Universal healthcare is cheaper per-capita than the system the US has. The US would be able to spend even more on the military if they fixed that. The military isn’t why the US doesn’t have a better healthcare system.
The US would be able to spend even more on the military if they fixed that.
Maybe someone needs to phrase it like that to their politicians.
No, the inefficiency is the point, it’s how healthcare is such good business in the US. And since companies are people, and people have the right to free speech, and since political donations are speech, then companies have the more speech than all the other citizens combined, and the politicians listen (The euphemism for this is “Citizens United”).
You cant because the health care industry is
bribinglobbying those politicians to keep it that way.
In a way it is.
You get free health care while you serve and the VA after. Yes, the VA is not great but it is still way, way better than no health care at all. So having shitty health for the general public care makes joining more attractive.
Same with the GI bill and the cost of university.
Service guarantees citizenship!
We don’t have free healthcare, in part because we are paying for Israel’s free healthcare.
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… they can get by without US support
Israel already receiving US support since 1973. So that ship has sailed, so to speak.
Can the US provide this same sort of support to Ukraine, where it just gives stuff to that country? Does that need to be approved by Congress, or because it’s not “spending” money it doesn’t need their approval?
It needs approval from Congress but they got that approval 70 years ago and it’s never expired.
Israel is the #1 recipient of foreign aid from the US. (Before the Ukraine war). Egypt, by treaty, received 10% of what Israel gets. That makes Egypt the #2 recipient of foreign aid.
The next country we voluntarily give foreign aid to receives less than 10% of what we give Israel.
Uh oh. Does anyone know of Israel has another ‘sink a US Navy ship and get out of jail free’ card?
I musta forgot about that… when? Why? How?
Uss liberty
That was mega fucked up. The fact they still get foreign aid boggles the fucking mind.
Had to look it up myself. Had never heard of it before though I’m not American or Israeli. Very interesting read.
im all for arming ukraine with the russian invasion but does isreal really need munitions to fight hamass?
until they straighten out their fucking right wingers, the Israelis can suck shit as far as this American is concerned… i’m not here to support Bebe in his antagonistic bubble, in his perfect little war that he needed… fuck him… throw him out first, then we’ll talk, assholes…
i bet those resources would be more useful in the ukraine
Point of note - it’s just ‘Ukraine’, not the Ukraine. ‘The Ukraine’ is a label used by those who see the nation as a region part of Russia. Small, but important thing I had to change when referring to it as well.
Hence why a certain someone would really rather that not to happen:-D.
Donate a carrier strike group?
Problem would be over in a weekend
The United States is not going to send an aircraft carrier up against a nuclear power, for obvious reasons.
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I really don’t understand why people are still talking about religion at this point.
I believe the humanitarian situation and the exasperation on one side and the economical interests and such on the other far outweigh the religious motivations
religious motivations far outweigh the real-world. this is why religion, at its core, is a terrible thing.
the whole ’ i will forsake my actual life, the most valuable thing an entity can possess’, because religion.
that the rich are utilizing this facet, honestly, is a good point… but belies the deep momentum these things have that are far past economic reasoning
That would ultimately lead to either a bloody stalemate or the annihilation of Israel.
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More likely the annihilation of Palestine, which is the current direction.
I honestly can’t believe how split about this whole thing Lemmy is.
It’s pretty cut and dry. When you violently oppress people for decades you open the gates to violent retaliation. If Israel would just leave Palestine the fuck alone none of this would’ve happened.
It’s like Russia and Ukraine. Israel is Russia and Palestine is Ukraine. The only difference is it’s been one sidedly violent for years and the bubble finally popped.
Palestine wants the extermination of Israel. There’s no just leaving Palestine alone while Israel exists.
Israel agreed to the UN proposal for a Palestinian state and Israeli state, with Jerusalem being internationally administered.
Palestine rejected it, and the second the British mandate expired, attacked the Israelis with the help of Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Iraq with the goal of exterminating them entirely.
I mean if I was violently oppressed for decades I’d be insatiable too.
My point is this has been a long time coming for Israel. They’ve been doing fucked up things for decades and surprise surprise it’s created a group of people who want nothing more than to see Israel burning.
Maybe they should have accepted the two independent state proposal instead of attempting to eliminate all the Jews in the region.
Israel accepted the two state proposal by the UN which gave Palestinian Arabs all the land they currently claim and made Jerusalem a neutral territory. Palestine responded by having Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq invade and try to exterminate all Israeli Jews like they did in the Muslim conquest.
They all got their asses handed to them. Over and over again every time they’ve started shit.
Imagine China splitting the US in two, and giving half of it to foreigners to make a nation on. I don’t think the US government would be happy about that, and that new nation doesn’t even have to be the kind that tries to expand every millisecond, it just needs to exist for there to be a conflict.
Palestine as a single nation didnt exist before the British mandate. It was territory owned by the Ottoman Empire after the conquered it from the Arab Mamluks in 1516. It was divided into 5 different sanjaks under the ottomans too, not a single district.
It’s a lot more like the division of Germany after WWII than anything. Or the breakup of Yugoslavia or the Soviet Union.
Jews have been living there for thousands of years, even during the periods of Muslim rule, and have as much right to call it home as well.
Why they didn’t send them to black sea?
Turkey would not let them pass, part of international treaty. Warships cannot come in or out if they are going to participate in a war. Don’t know they exact details.
I believe the treaty limits the weight of the ships that can pass (with a prior notice) to 15000 tons which an aircraft carrier easily exceeds. This ruling is though I believe for the peace times, I don’t know if Turkey has to be at peace or the country the ship is headed for.
Also the treaty states that a ship that enteref through Turkey can be present at black sea for a maximum of 21 days.
At this point it’d be nice if we did more than just a show of support.
No thanks, US soldiers don’t need to die for Israel’s mistakes.
I was moreso thinking for the murdered US citizens, and the US citizens taken hostage.
They knew the risks and that does sound cruel to say but it is very true. Bombings throughout the middle East in general and specifically between Israel and Hamas have been happening for decades. You don’t go to an apartied country that is actively trying to annex it’s neighbor and get to play surprised that bad shit happens.
Fair, but I know a lot of people that have moved to Israel. They know very well the volatility of the situation. It’s like saying the US should airlift American citizens who traveled to the Afghanistan countryside.
I think the $4 billion we’ve been sending Israel every year since the 90’s is enough support.
Yeah like maybe invade Israel and remove the cunts in charge.
