• filister@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    And I actually expect that the numbers are considerably higher just because there are probably a lot of people unaccounted for under the rubble. But even if they are exaggerated it is still staggering human cost and there is no way around it.

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    8 months ago

    Death toll releases

    Biden: No, that can’t be right. Israel is merely “defending itself”

    Death with names of victims releases

    Biden: Sticks head in sand and yells gibberish

    You see why neutral parties concerned for human life have been calling for a ceasefire now? Or do you want more blood on your hands? How children are enough? 1000? 2000? 5000?

    Jfc, this is depressing…

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    He prefers a number closer to or at zero. Anything else shows he backed and effectively promoted the murder of civilians, including children

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    8 months ago

    “Hamas says it’s right, so it’s right”, says group biased against Israel.

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      8 months ago

      “US and israel politicians don’t believe casualty numbers from Palestinian government, so it must be true” says group biased towards Israel

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      Anyone with common decency should be against a war crime-comitting child-killing illegal state.

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            I liketo think my take on the conflict is pretty nuanced. Generally, I don’t like the State of Isreal.

            Let me be crystal clear with what I just wrote: I believe the government of Isreal has fostered a culture of dehumanizing Palestinians and is complicit in crimes against humanity. This is apparent with its history of stealing land and extra-judicial killings of Palestinian civilians by the IDF. The people of Israel deserve so much better.

            This sentiment also largely applies to Palestine. The Hamas Government triggered this conflict by striking at civilians in Israel. I understand that their primary driving ideology is to kill jews and I think that is fucked up. I also understand that after years of the afore mentioned land grabbing and killings it has led to these extreme attacks by Hamas. It really feels like a chicken and egg situation, which started first. Either way the people of Palestine deserve so much better.

            I am more than capable of assigning blame to the appropriate places and lament the affects it has on the victims of violence.

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            8 months ago

            Idk, how far are we stretching the definition of carpet bomb? Is it as far detached from the actual definition like your usage of “genocide”? Are we including massive missile barrages? I don’t think Hamas wants to stop firing those off.

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          The instance tag says “Lemmy.world” so probably Israel… But that’s normal behavior on that instance, most people that aren’t banned there hate jews.

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      Pretty idiotic argument, even if im very pro Israel, UN is relatively neutral on that and the death toll doesn’t seem to much out of place given the amount of attacks.

      But there is nothing possible to do about that either way.

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            Ah yes troll because the account is a day old? Bruh your account was a day old some day as well?

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          Other countries would have turned gaza into a glass desert by now… Most would have. And don’t tell my otherwise, if your country gets attacked on a important holiday, by people specifically targeting civilians killing and kidnapping people, everyone else would have been done by now.

          I Don’t say Israel isn’t doing some shady and problematic things, but the blame falls mostly on those that caused all of that to themselves and now use civilians as human shields while launching rockets into civilian areas (sometimes even the ones they claim their territory as seen in the hospital incident)

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        UN is far from neutral towards Israel and takes most of their data from the local government, regardless of their international status as a terror organization.

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        Talking about the UN as a singular entity that has objective features is silly and quite honestly emphasizes your lack of knowledge